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Not everyone likes the .30 Carbine, but...

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by Captain O, Apr 13, 2016.

  1. Captain O

    Captain O St. Helens, OR Well-Known Member

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    I dearly love the cartridge! IMHO:

    a) It is a great short-range defense cartridge. (There's no doubt about how well Soft Point bullets perform in this respect). See how well this ammunition performs in ballistic gelatin at brassfetcher ballistic testing. wwwbrassfetchers.com

    b) It is maneuverable.

    c) With either 10, 15, or 30 rounds at your disposal it has plenty of firepower at hand.

    d) Up to 150 yards, it gives up very little to the .223.

    e) It is easily mastered.

    f) Contrary to popular belief, it can be (and has been) used to harvest deer at moderate ranges (between 50 and 100 yards).

    Does anyone (besides me) view this "war baby" as a true sporting, as well as defensive, arm?
     
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  2. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Here we go again...
     
  3. GOG

    GOG State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    I think it's a useful, simple and stout little carbine. I've had a few Inland's over the years but don't have one at present. I won't be getting another as I really have no practical use for one around here.
     
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  4. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I have both an Inland Carbine and a Ruger Blackhawk in 30 carbine. And I enjoy both.
     
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  5. AndyinEverson

    AndyinEverson Everson, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    I like the carbine. It is fun and easy to shoot.
    At one time I owned a '43 dated Inland. Sure was a neat little rifle.
    As a history buff the Carbine interests me . You do see it in lots of photos and newsreels.
    My carbine with a 110 hollow point , sure would have made a light and accurate rifle for small game and home defense.
    I know the Carbine has taken deer , but I think there are better cartridges for deer ...
    If funds were better , a Rockola like my dad carried in Korea might be nice to have.
    But being on a budget I need to stick with guns that I will shoot or have a use for.
    The Carbine as fun and historic as it is , has no real room in my collection.
    Andy
     
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  6. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Ammo and brass are spendy and can be hard to come by when the panic balloon goes up. But they are nice to shoot once you have a stockpile.

    Other than that, it's a glaring hole in my US small arms collection, and I will likely add one at some point, whether surplus or one of the new-made reproductions.
     
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  7. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Not a fan. I don't hate them, and I get that they're fun, but back when I owned a pair they were expensive to shoot. I have a little problem with the original military purpose. "Hand me that big, ol', heavy Garand, please!" It may be that I'm comfortable with the 5.56/.223 because I've been a varmint hunter for most of my life. I'm not down on a .30 bullet, I trained on, and carried an M-14 in the Army and own and shoot a M-1A. It's just that ones a rifle and the other ain't!:D
     
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  8. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    my cousin hunts with a blackhawk in .30 and it does well.

    IMO, there are zero calibers who's time has come and gone. But I will say the closest thing that comes to that is the .40 :p

    j/k.
     
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  9. JRuby

    JRuby St. Helens Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Inside a house or building I would take the 30 carbine over a 7.62X51 but I would much prefer a short barreled shotgun over either. IMHO​
     
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  10. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    i keep hearing that ammo is expensive?? A little over $20.00 for 50 remans doesn't seem that bad? Cheaper that .357 or 10mm, or? $122.00 for 500 Starline brass. Plus, it should be an easy reload. Not cheap, but once you invest in the components you'll have a lot makin's that will last a long time.
     
  11. Boboclown

    Boboclown North Carolina Well-Known Member

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    Nothing wrong with the .30, but I don't particularly care for one. I'd get an M1 Garand or M14, but the M1 Carbine isn't really on my list of "must have" guns.
     
  12. Captain O

    Captain O St. Helens, OR Well-Known Member

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    Obviously you think that the .30 Carbine isn't a rifle. I don't want to "rain on your parade" but the .30 Carbine is, and always has been a "light rifle" generating peak pressures of 38,500 psi. (The only pistol cartridge that exceeds this is the 9x23 Winchester).

    This is a common error. Of all people, I thought that you would know better. I am certain that you're sharper than this.
     
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  13. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    Oh my laurd.... The 5.56 is a punky lil bee-och but the .30 Carbine is the bee's Knee's!

    Yeah, Not.

    Next you'll be telling us that .380 Auto is the best concealed carry round :eek:
     
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  14. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I know what I think, some people are real arrogant and that's saying it real nicely.
     
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  15. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I load a 125gr Sierra FPHP bullet and get excellent accuracy from my Blackhawk. The same round in my Carbine will shoot about 3-4" groups at 50 yards. Military sights off the bench.
     
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  16. Captain O

    Captain O St. Helens, OR Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but no. I never did trust the .380. Still don't. Too much mass, too little power. For the same case length, I'll take a .32 ACP, thank you very much.
     
  17. x2ndxall

    x2ndxall WA Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    Dude. Really? Semantics much?
    Is there a reason you call it a carbine? Could it be because you see it as being different than what you would typically call a rifle, just like everyone else? Is it possible that what he was saying is that one is a REAL rifle?
    I'm thinking you would do well to step down from your high horse and lighten up a bit. Who gives a sh!t what you or I like and don't like? It's fine to discuss, and even disagree, but stop with the I-know-best rhetoric. It's grown old and soon no one will even take the time to disagree with you.
     
  18. Captain O

    Captain O St. Helens, OR Well-Known Member

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    Let's see... "That one's a rifle the other ain't". I didn't write this. (Poor English skills notwithstanding).

    Try again.
     
  19. x2ndxall

    x2ndxall WA Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    I'm pretty sure you're not a bad guy. Why you feel the need to act like a jerk, I have no idea.
     
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  20. Captain O

    Captain O St. Helens, OR Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the world of being held responsible for what is placed on the Internet. It's out there to be judged indefinitely. Clear and concise writing will convey the proper message. An old advertisement said it best: "People judge you by the words you use." How they are used and the message conveyed, especially in print, is the perception. Any first year Speech Communication major will tell you that: "The perception is the reality." There is no arrogance involved at all, just human nature.