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North Korea declares WAR on South Korea

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by theminutemenrideagain, Mar 31, 2013.

  1. theminutemenrideagain

    theminutemenrideagain Tigard Member

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    SEOUL - North Korea on Saturday declared it was in a ‘state of war’ with South Korea and warned Seoul and Washington that any provocation would swiftly escalate into an all-out nuclear conflict.The United States said it took the announcement “seriously”, but noted it followed a familiar pattern, while South Korea largely dismissed it as an old threat dressed in new clothing.It was the latest in a string of dire-sounding pronouncements from Pyongyang that have been matched by tough warnings from Seoul and Washington, fuelling international concern that the situation might spiral out of control.“As of now, inter-Korea relations enter a state of war and all matters between the two Koreas will be handled according to wartime protocol,” the North said in a government statement carried by the Korean Central News Agency.“The long-standing situation of the Korean peninsula being neither at peace nor at war is finally over,” the statement said, adding that any US or South Korean provocation would trigger a “a nuclear war”.

    The two Koreas have technically remained at war for the past six decades because the 1950-53 Korean War concluded with an armistice rather than a peace treaty.The North had announced earlier this month that it was ripping up the armistice and other bilateral peace pacts signed with Seoul in protest against South Korea-US joint military exercises. The White House labelled the latest statement from Pyongyang as “unconstructive” and, while taking it “seriously”, sought to place the immediate threat level in context. “North Korea has a long history of bellicose rhetoric and threats and today’s announcement follows that familiar pattern,” said National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden. In Seoul, the Unification Ministry insisted the war threat was “not really new”. The Defence Ministry vowed to “retaliate thoroughly” to any provocation, but added that no notable troop movement had been observed along the border.Late on Saturday the North ratcheted up its threats, warning it could shut down the Kaesong industrial complex, a joint South-North venture that provides the regime with crucial hard currency. “We warn that stern measures will be taken if (South Korea) continues to make reckless remarks defaming our dignity,” a state body said, adding that the fate of the complex depends entirely on the attitude of Seoul.Established in 2004 as a symbol of cross-border cooperation, Kaesong had managed to keep functioning despite repeated crises in inter-Korean relations.

    But there have been concerns that its operations would be affected by Pyongyang’s move on Wednesday to sever a military hotline used to monitor movement in and out of the zone.Most observers however still believe this will remain a verbal rather than a physical battle. “The North Koreans in recent weeks have turned rhetoric into performance art,” said Gordon Flake, a Korea specialist and executive director of the Mansfield Foundation in Washington. “When they have already declared the armistice null and void, I do not think a declaration of war breaks new ground,” Flake said. But he added that the situation had now become so volatile that any slight miscalculation carried the potential for rapid escalation.Both China and Russia have called for calm, with a Russian diplomat voicing particular concern on Saturday. “We expect all sides to show maximum responsibility and restraint and that no-one will cross the line after which there will be no return,” Grigory Logvinov, a Russian foreign ministry pointman on North Korea, told the Interfax news agency.“Naturally, we cannot remain indifferent when an escalation of tensions is taking place at our eastern frontiers,” Logvinov was quoted as saying. “We cannot but worry.” France on Saturday voiced concern over escalating tension on the Korean peninsula. Paris “urges North Korea to refrain from any new provocation and fulfil its international obligations - within the framework of relevant United Nations resolutions - and swiftly return on the path of dialogue,” a foreign ministry statement said.

    On Friday North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un ordered missile units to prepare to strike US mainland and military bases, after US stealth bombers flew over South Korea.The high-stakes standoff has its roots in North Korea’s successful long-range rocket launch in December and the third nuclear test it carried out in February. Both events drew UN sanctions that incensed Pyongyang, which then switched the focus of its anger to the annual joint South Korea-US military drills.As tensions escalated, Washington has maintained a notably assertive stance, publicising its use of nuclear-capable B-52s and B-2 stealth bombers in the war games. The long-distance deployment of both sets of aircraft out of bases in Guam and the US mainland were intended as a clear signal of US commitment to defending South Korea against any act of aggression.
     
  2. speeddemon94

    speeddemon94 The Rogue Well-Known Member

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    It says they have declared a "state of war", but really showing their smarts here...

    not that I dont take any threat of violence seriously, even if they had a rocket that could propel a warhead to the US, it would be blown out of the sky shortly after launch.

    And I think that may be an instance where the perpetrator would receive a good spanking.


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  3. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    This is so 1950... The country has been in a state of war since June 1950 they just took a break in July of 53 cause they were tired.
     
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    drew OR Well-Known Member

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  5. 1stklass

    1stklass salem oregon Well-Known Member

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    i say someone go over there to the border and let of a mag full of evil AR rounds off to get this thing started and over with
     
  6. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    Kim Dong None is mostly looking for a way to save face. If he really thought he could pull it off he would have already invaded. The guys I'd like to talk to are the generals he surrounds himself with. These guys are probably eating Xanex by the handful. I imagine that the briefing would go something like this:

    "General Wong - Are you certain we can destroy the Imperialist dogs in a single strike?" General Wong, knowing that the truth would result in reassignment to a prison responds "Yes, Supreme Leader, with our new missiles, it is an absolute certainty" The other generals nervously nod in approval...
     
  7. Benny503

    Benny503 Grants Pass Well-Known Member

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    I will worry about China more. Lately them have control all the smaller countries around SE Asia. Really soon they will demand the US pay back their debt.
     
  8. theminutemenrideagain

    theminutemenrideagain Tigard Member

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    You wait and watch I belive this is all to lure us in and just like before china is going to get in on it if we start dishing it out hard enough to them , because in the bigger picture china is the rich older cousin and Korea is there broke younger cousin always needing money and china may very well get sick of them but if they see someone really giving them a woop for, there gonna step in and try to stop it sooner or later.

    Now some may right this off as a long war that's been happening forever but I do know that if we are getting threatened that they will launch on our military base's in Japan and Guam for flying over and "provoking" them, America is not going to take that to kindly and I hope it doesn't go to far but I do belive this is going to escalate to something far worse, and there is also reports of NK destroying the missile/peace treaty that was signed in 53 which is just more fuel for the fire.

    I hope those crazy little shrimp dicks don't do something foolish.
     
  9. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    I certainly understand their hatred of us. We slaughtered 1/3rd of their population and never cared about distinguishing between military and civilian targets. As justification, US Generals would state that everyone in NK is 'officially
    a soldier' - grandmas to grand kids - so all targets are fair game.

    Nearly every North Korean family has someone, a grandfather/mother that was killed by us.

    We lost <1% of our population in WWII and WWI. Could you imaging losing 1/3rd? I mean, 1/3! Impossible unless you are attempting genocide on a mass scale.

    I had an old friend that was a US Officer in Korea and the stories he told me over the years of the things we did would make Hitler blush. Exterminations, mass graves, shooting unarmed captives at will. He wrote a book about it that was refused by every publisher of course.

    Not a fan of NK or its backward leadership, but when you understand a little history outside of all the propaganda you can see why we are hated by them so badly. Our tactics have never really changed in that regard. Shock and awful.

    Or maybe not - maybe put that plastic flag in the car window and still be believe we are and always have been the good guys.
     
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  10. dmancornell

    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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    How is that different from the US?
     
  11. dmancornell

    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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    LOL, North Korea only issues threats to South Korea, Japan and the US, the US government threatens that many countries on a slow day.
     
  12. Kevatc

    Kevatc Oregon Well-Known Member

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    And this has what to do with the gun issues in America right now?
     
  13. theminutemenrideagain

    theminutemenrideagain Tigard Member

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    this forum is for legal political forums. nowhere does it say gun scare only
     
  14. Kevatc

    Kevatc Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Ya, actually it does. Surprised the mods haven't shut it down yet. Besides, what is legal or political about North Korea being idiots?

    From the top left under Forums: "Local, county, or national legal and political firearm issues.
    All topics MUST be firearm related."
     
  15. theminutemenrideagain

    theminutemenrideagain Tigard Member

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    The fact that we have lost americans in a privious war with a country that now is threatning nuclear launch on us desirves some input from the people rather than some conversation on the same IDIOTS in washington that have been saying the same thing for the last 6 months thinking they could ever disarm the most armed country on this planet that doesnt want to be disarmed is why I have started this thread and if you dont like it then DONT READ IT. I belive its pretty simple.
     
  16. theminutemenrideagain

    theminutemenrideagain Tigard Member

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    To address the gun control. unconstitutional so MOLON LABE cause if they try its going to be a civil war and only the pusscakes will let it happen.
     
  17. Kevinkris

    Kevinkris Aloha Well-Known Member

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    because if the american people are not armed the KPA would have a much easier time attacking the mainland as they have openly expressed they plan to do.
     
  18. Cuthbert Allgood

    Cuthbert Allgood Clark County, WA Well-Known Member

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    how do you expect them to actually get their people over here? they don't stand a chance attempting something like that. a bomb? yes, there is a chance one could hit somewhere here on the west coast. i'lll be surprised if un lives up to the hype.
     
  19. WasrNwarpaint

    WasrNwarpaint Portland Well-Known Member

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    Frankly Im waiting to see what King Pinocchio is going to do about this? is he going to do something about the threat of BIG GUNS or is it just the disarming of Americans he's interested in, so the corporate rape of America can continue
     
  20. Kevinkris

    Kevinkris Aloha Well-Known Member

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    just so happens the KPA has the 4th largest army in the world and is highly trained and equipped. to say that it is unlikely they could make it here would be fine but to say they cant would be naive. Sun Tzu would slap you in the face for saying that, underestimating the enemy is the biggest mistake anyone could ever make in war. sure we may have any army as large as the next 13 armies in the world but history shows that we still fail to fight with passion which makes our forces less likely to make cold decisions that turn the tides in our favor. on top of that we have civilized men at arms not ruthless fighters which effect the moral of troops on the field when they have no time to relax away from the fight. the KPA on the other hand has the indoctrinated beliefs of superiority and what they see as a righteous cause for war.

    professional soldiers do not have the effectiveness of fighters who believe in what they are doing. being out numbered and outgunned does not mean you will loose. you shouldnt be worried to the point that it disrupts you life at this point but you simply cant write the threat off.