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Non-resident long gun purchase in Oregon from an FFL legal?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Slips73, Apr 23, 2015.

  1. Slips73

    Slips73 Powers, OR/ Flagstaff, AZ New Member

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    Does anyone know if an Arizona Resident can purchase long guns from a store in Oregon? I am saving up for a new rifle, looking for an older marlin lever action, and they dont come up much around me, and I will be in Powers working from may-august

    this site seems to think so.

    http://nssf.org/factsheets/PDF/ContiguousStateRestrict.pdf?

    And correct me if I am wrong, but from my research it seems Oregon residents may only purchase in contiguous states, as the above is referring to an oregon resident purchasing out of state, not a non resident purchasing in oregon


    but an Arizona Resident may purchase as a non resident, a firearm from a store? That has always been how it was described to me.
     
  2. tommy98466

    tommy98466 University Place, WA Active Member

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    Rent an apartment, get an Oregon drivers license and become a resident of Oregon for those 4 months. After 90 days go buy the rifle. Should be legal.
     
  3. broncman

    broncman E. of Portland yet to close! Quality Control!

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    You should be able to buy a long gun thru a dealer here without any problems. Heck call a gun dealer or two and ask.
     
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  4. ron

    ron Vancouver, Washington Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Yes you can purchase a long gun across state lines from a dealer. I have done so several times.
     
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  5. broncman

    broncman E. of Portland yet to close! Quality Control!

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    I didn't want to bubblegum-U-ME anything as it was in 92/93 that I purchase a few long guns down in Arizona while at school. I do believe it is a federal law not a state law though.
     
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  6. Classic

    Classic Federal Way WA Well-Known Member

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    You can buy a long gun from a dealer but handguns are a different story unless they are shipped to an FFL in your home state and you take possession in your home state.
     
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  7. Slips73

    Slips73 Powers, OR/ Flagstaff, AZ New Member

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    thanks guys! So do you know if I can have a gun ordered to a store, say from an online website like Simpsons ltd. or CDNN? that isnt a private party?
     
  8. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    Same question, looking for a different answer?
    https://www.northwestfirearms.com/threads/new-from-arizona-southern-oregon.195833/#post-1259449

    "I will be in Powers working from may-august"

    ASSUMING you are a USA citizen, and
    Your legal residency is Arizona. Arizona law
    Prior to your visit to Oregon, arrange with an Arizona FFL to receive your purchase from an out-of-state FFL (get his name, address, phone number for future contact).
    While visiting Oregon, find the gun you wish to purchase.
    If from an ordinary Oregon citizen, Pay his price, then
    Both of you go to an Oregon FFL to transact transfer of ownership.
    The Oregon FFL will charge a fee to do the paperwork, and ship the rifle to your Arizona FFL.
    You may take possession of your rifle from the Arizona FFL who will charge a fee to do the paperwork.
     
  9. Slips73

    Slips73 Powers, OR/ Flagstaff, AZ New Member

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    I just posted it on Legal/Politcal for more insight, I have a buddy who is an FFL here i can send guns too, but after researching both state and federal law, I can purchase a gun from a store in Oregon, just not from private party( UNLESS i send it to an Arizona FFL), I understand how transfers work, done many many many private party both interstate and instate, but usually as the seller. And that was in California.

    But what you are mentioning refers to Private party transfers.
     
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  10. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    Slips
    You can purchase from anyone you want to.
    But...
    your question related to what was legal and lawful.

    You also said purchase from a store.
    You also said a new rifle, an older marlin lever action
    You also said you're just outta high school, first year in college.
    You "understand how transfers work, done many many many private party both interstate and instate, but usually as the seller. And that was in California"

    I think you are a troll
     
  11. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    My understanding is that the contiguous state restriction for long guns has gone away and that yes, you can purchase a long gun via an FFL, in person (over the counter), as long as the purchase is otherwise legal in the state you are buying in.

    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/licensees-conduct-of-business.html#out-of-state-resident

    [18 U.S.C. 922(b)(3)]
     
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  12. Hawaiian

    Hawaiian Tigard Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Long gun from FFL in person is OK. Long gun from private party is Not OK. Handgun from either is Not OK.
     
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  13. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    I did it in Vegas. Its just pistols that they "couldnt" but that may change one day!
     
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  14. Slips73

    Slips73 Powers, OR/ Flagstaff, AZ New Member

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    Think what you want pal, Im not sure where your going with this, and the contiguous state purchase only applies or did apply (if previous poster is correct) to Oregon residents, I am not an Oregon resident, you simply seem to be looking to pick a bone with me. I am in college yes and young, but i am not stupid, I have hitch-hiked the entire western united states before I was 18, restored firearms and worked for a gunsmith hobbyist, worked on farms and for the forest service before I came to school here in Arizona and continue to do so, I have sold multiples of rifles to out of state people when I lived in California, now I live in Arizona and have done multiple private party purchases, I understand how federal transfers work, I am not sure where your listing is going, you seem to be nit picking things I have said, is not an old rifle i just bought, a new rifle to me? (rhetorical question by the way) I work for the federal government I understand how things can be misinterpreted in their laws, both by FFL dealers and LEO's, i figured id ask people who live in the region what they know, you merely quoted a law on what Oregon residents can do, not what I was asking, then proceeded to antagonize me, if anything, you sir, are trolling my thread. I suggest you find something better to do as I dont feel I have any reason to defend myself against you.
     
  15. Greenbug

    Greenbug Bend Well-Known Member

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    In order to purchase a handgun, legally from a FFL dealer, you must be a resident of the state where you are picking up the handgun (completing the background check and taking physical possession of the handgun).

    Long guns are a different story. The FFL dealer must ensure that the transfer is legal in the state where the transfer is taking place, also they must ensure that the transfer is legal in the state where the purchaser resides.

    In your case, it is legal for an Oregon FFL to sell a long gun directly to a resident of any state, the question is this... is it legal for an Arizona resident to purchase a long gun in another state?

    By the way, it is legal for you as a resident of Arizona to purchase a long gun from an Oregon FFL dealer, but jeez! don't take my word for it or any of the other possible idiots on the internets.

    Do your homework and find out exactly what the laws in YOUR state are...;)
     
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  16. rkalbiar

    rkalbiar Salem, Oregon Active Member

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    To put it simply, as of this moment (subject to change of course):

    Residents of Oregon can only buy long guns from an FFL in an contiguous state. (Idaho, Nevada or Washington. California law says NO!)

    Residents of other states can buy longs guns from an FFL in Oregon, as long as it is legal in their state. (NOT OK for CA, CO, DE, IL, MD, NY, and OH.)