Non-Lethal Options?

[albin25]

My gun does both lethal AND non-lethal...
...but it's is kinda sorta hit or miss!

 

[Certaindeaf]

My gun does both lethal AND non-lethal...
...but it's is kinda sorta hit or miss!

good luck

 

[Alexx1401]

I've read articles that say you could be in BIG trouble for using Bug Sprays on humans. And then of course there are these 3 points from an article: "2. Using a pesticide in a manner other than according to labeled directions is a violation of federal law (the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act). 3. It is illegal (finable offense) for anyone to recommend a use other than the labeled use. 4. Personal liability is likely to be significant for a person who deliberately sprays another person with a pesticide."

I have read that too. I would have to "guess" it would come down to if you let your mouth get you in trouble after. As in if you told them you carried it for protection, rather than it was the first thing that came to hand when attacked. I use that stuff around the house and it sure works on the bee's. No idea what it would actually do to a person. One thing that would worry me about it in the car is summer. Would not want to forget it was there and have it let go in a hot car. Seems like it would be one hell of a mess cleaning it up if it did. Don't have any idea if the cans are made safe for the temp in a car or not. They may well be safe.
I have known people who would carry something like a Tball bat. I always told them keep a glove too or such and just don't ever admit it was there as a weapon. A LOT of people who defend themselves get in trouble after by what they say when questioned.

 

[Howard1955]

I'm guessing that a WD40 flamethrower could help clear a path through a bunch of rioters - but might be a problem explaining in court later. Still, if that happened to be your only way out of a tough spot...

 

[Certaindeaf]

I'm guessing that a WD40 flamethrower could help clear a path through a bunch of rioters - but might be a problem explaining in court later. Still, if that happened to be your only way out of a tough spot...

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Reminded me. werd..

 

[Alexx1401]

I'm guessing that a WD40 flamethrower could help clear a path through a bunch of rioters - but might be a problem explaining in court later. Still, if that happened to be your only way out of a tough spot...

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Guy I was working with one day using a torch on something he was going at. Sets torch down to spray WD on some part. I said "hey watch it that stuff is VERY flammable". He not believing me sprayed it at the torch. Already was starting to tell me I was full of it until the huge fireball.

 

[Howard1955]

Reminded me. werd..

C-Deaf, Where did you get those fine sunglasses?

 

[mjbskwim]

WD 40 is propelled by propane FYI

 

[Certaindeaf]

C-Deaf, Where did you get those fine sunglasses?

he be all good

 

[Bircherr]

Currently work as security so I'm carrying an X26 with 3 extra cartridges, an ASP 26" expandable baton, and Frist Defense MK3 1.2% OC spray.

 

[SmitKoWitz]

A LOT of people who defend themselves get in trouble after by what they say when questioned.

I carry an axe and firewood in my vehicle, never know when you might break down in the middle of nowhere and need both to survive. I also have a survival kit (sans weaponry), blanket and waterproof jacket, hat and gloves. So the axe and wood, should not seem unusual to be in the vehicle. If I lived in Chicago it might.

 

[fxdl]

In passing it should be remembered that the aorta and spinal cord are very close together and a wound to one will likely damage the other. In either case the perp won't be getting back up. Pretty much between the nipples and the navel center line will put some one down, permanently. I would never advise harming another human being, especially in the fair state of Washington, but spending five minutes looking at human anatomy would be very useful since assailants don't usually wear t shirts featuring large concentric circles with numbers on them.

 

[mjbskwim]

I carry an axe and firewood in my vehicle, never know when you might break down in the middle of nowhere and need both to survive. I also have a survival kit (sans weaponry), blanket and waterproof jacket, hat and gloves. So the axe and wood, should not seem unusual to be in the vehicle. If I lived in Chicago it might.

In Chicago they'd say " axe me what?"

 

[Certaindeaf]

"non-lethal".. lol. don't kill them
o snap

 

[aikikenjitsu]

I've read articles that say you could be in BIG trouble for using Bug Sprays on humans. And then of course there are these 3 points from an article: "2. Using a pesticide in a manner other than according to labeled directions is a violation of federal law (the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act). 3. It is illegal (finable offense) for anyone to recommend a use other than the labeled use. 4. Personal liability is likely to be significant for a person who deliberately sprays another person with a pesticide."

If someone means to harm you, I doubt that it would be a violation of federal law if you had to defend yourself from real harm. So load up on gooey bug spray, but don't use it unless someone is trying to viciously hurt you.
Sifu

 

[Alexx1401]

Currently work as security so I'm carrying an X26 with 3 extra cartridges, an ASP 26" expandable baton, and Frist Defense MK3 1.2% OC spray.

If your experience goes anything like mine you may never have to use the Taser. At least as long as it's just one person at a time. Best money I ever spent.

 

[SmitKoWitz]

If someone means to harm you, I doubt that it would be a violation of federal law if you had to defend yourself from real harm. So load up on gooey bug spray, but don't use it unless someone is trying to viciously hurt you.
Sifu

Why waste time and money on bug spray, just use your concealed weapon then.

 

[Alexx1401]

If someone means to harm you, I doubt that it would be a violation of federal law if you had to defend yourself from real harm. So load up on gooey bug spray, but don't use it unless someone is trying to viciously hurt you.
Sifu

Well again if you spray someone with it don't say you had it for defense. Say it just was there and you grabbed it. Where someone will get trouble if there is any will be by what they say after.

 

[mjbskwim]

Go look closer on the label of your chemicals
Most say it's a federal law to use it ONLY as stated on the label.
So use for self defense and commit a federal crime.
Your "victim " goes free and YOU get the fine

 

[Alexx1401]

Why waste time and money on bug spray, just use your concealed weapon then.

I'm assuming anyone doing this did not have a gun for whatever reason. Can't have it, don't want to have it, who knows. Many will still to this day not go armed. Sometimes nothing persuades them too.