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Non cpl holder transporting handguns

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by mjbskwim, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    OK I have my cc license and understand a person should just get one....blah,blah,blah
    This would be for WA also
    On to the question
    I was at the local shop talking to a new resident about transporting guns without a carry permit
    I said that the guns can be on the seat next to you and the magazine next to it
    My buddy and the other shop employee, said they needed to be in different compartments,inaccessible to the driver

    I have searched and searched for this wording on the state sight and it had elluded me.
    Again,this is for transporting a handgun in Washington,in a vehicle without a carry permit
    (LCCP to be technical)

    Thanks for helping me clear this up
    Mike
     
  2. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    The State of WA calls it a CPL in their laws.

    Also, you can carry a long gun in your vehicle as long as there is no round in the chamber OR the mag locked into place in the weapon. So, theoretically you could have the chamber unloaded and a mag in the well as long as it's not locked into place

    Some people think you can carry a loaded flare gun in their vehicle but if you read the definition of a firearm you will see that that's illegal too:
    So, you could carry the handgun in a case, having it beside you on the seat could depend on how the officer feels at the time.
     
  3. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Thanks,that's everything I found so far. Doesn't show the "inaccessible" term as I said.
    And if you look at your first paragraph,since I'm on my phone and can't quote,it uses " license to carry concealed pistol".
    But you are showing there isn't the wording my friend used in WA's laws
    Anybody else?
     
  4. Misterbill

    Misterbill Yakima County, Washington New Member

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    There are other states that have the specific wording "Inaccessible to the driver," I believe NH is one of those. This may be what is confusing your friend as the language is used in a lot of contexts to show how you can transport a loaded gun.
     
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  5. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

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    RCW 9.41.050 has the various prohibitions, RCW 9.41.060 has the various execptions. Unloaded and locked up in teh trunk is one of the exceptions, that is true, but it is far from the only execption... RCW 9.41.060: Exceptions to restrictions on carrying firearms. see exception #9.
     
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    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

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    Far to simplistic an explaintion...Far Far to simplistic.

    To have a CPL, allows you to ignore all of .050 all the time. That is about all it does. I have open carried in WA since 1970 and I OC'd for over 25 years without any CPL...until I just got tired of having to wait for my new toys...but you can carry without a license...there are times you can conceal without a license,,,yes,,,in a vehicle, loaded and concealed, no license necessary...READ RCW 9.41.060(8). RCW 9.41.060: Exceptions to restrictions on carrying firearms.

    I never intentially conceal, even though I have a CPL, but everyone...Bookmark RCW 9.41...read it, read it again, and then read it some more...learn it explicitly...then CPL or no CPL, you will know what the law, and it's exemptions are, and when they apply.
     
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  7. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Yeah hermannr,that's the other one we argue about. But working at a gun store,he wants to watch what "legal" advice he gives
     
  8. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

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    If I owned a gun store, my "legal advice" would give all new firearms owners the F&W booklet you get when you apply for your CPL. I would tell every new purchaser...it is their responsibility to know the law...here it is. Those booklets are free for the asking, or free downloads...but the paper booklet as part of the new buyers paperwork would do everyone good. You better believe that is what I would do.

    A new buyer is going to have to wait at least a couple days anyway. If they have a CPL, they already got that booklet when they applied for their CPL. IMHO...that is what you do.
     
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