No coincedence. John Noveske murdered? Just after he wrote about psychoactive drugs..

[Burt Gummer]

It isn't just gun-related stuff. Anyone who tries to seriously mess with the machine is dealt with severely. This guy was trying to stop SOPA and then suddenly decided to hang himself - Co-founder of

 

[ATCclears]

» Forbes Deletes Popular Pro Gun Story, Linking Psychiatric Drugs To Murders Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Those who understand the origins of pharma and their symbols (a snake and a rod) know that they tie directly to the big conspiracy behind the New World Odor

Millions have been murdered in the furtherance of their ultimate goals

 

[One-Eyed Ross]

Those who understand the origins of pharma and their symbols (a snake and a rod) know that they tie directly to the big conspiracy behind the New World Odor

Millions have been murdered in the furtherance of their ultimate goals

Ok, I'm confused. How does an ancient Greek symbol (The Rod of Asclepius) have anything to do with a big conspiracy for a "new world order"? (by the way, Novo ordum seculorum doesn't mean new world order, it means new order of the ages. The only place seculorum mean world is in a pope deciding that seacula saeculorum meant "world without end" as opposed to "age of ages.")

 

[Blitzkrieg]

That symbol is as old as the cosmos and greatly predated Greek civilization. Anyone who knows Genesis very well knows all about a "snake".. the rod is obvious as well

 

[aslinged]

Caduceus is the term for the symbol. Google it up, deep rabbit hole dude with no easily confirmed answers.

 

[One-Eyed Ross]

The caduceus was the symbol for a messenger, not the physician. The US Army got it wrong when they did the heraldry for the Army Medical Corps and Army Medical Department. The real symbol for medicine was the rod asclepius.


So, lemme get this straight. Them ancient greek dudes knew, thousands of years ago, about some secret group trying to form a one world goverment 2500 years ago?

Man, they was smarter than I thought they was.

 

[PolishedBrass]

I had been aware of false flag type machinations for over 2 decades ... so the Sandy Hook event was predictable.

Interesting Video with a little expose'

7 Sandy Hook Facts You Can't Ignore - YouTube

 

[One-Eyed Ross]

That symbol is as old as the cosmos and greatly predated Greek civilization. Anyone who knows Genesis very well knows all about a "snake".. the rod is obvious as well

So, a Babylonian creation myth predating a Greek god has something to do with a present day New World Order by some super secret Bilge and Burger Boy's Choir of Jewish Muslim Communist Nazi Skull and Bones group. Got it.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Same old cognitive dissonance agents every time. You would think new handles would be in order once in a while


If anyone really wants to know what is going on, here... please google sayanim

 

[One-Eyed Ross]

so, what does a bunch of bigots talking about Jewish helpers have to do with the Rod of Asclepius or the Caduceus?

Seriously, you guys honestly believe that a religious group that comprises a very minor percentage of the worlds population is trying to take over?

If you were saying Hindus were going to do it, I would be more inclined to agree, since they are a larger percentage of the world's people, and control more of it...or Muslims, since they control most of the oil....but some of the Muslims are also Semites, so...I'm so confused!

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Usual disinfo. This is like dueling with a midget who is armed with a toothpick

http://www.texemarrs.com/082012/sayanim_everywhere.htm

 

[One-Eyed Ross]

Usual disinfo. This is like dueling with a midget who is armed with a toothpick

Sayanim Everywhere

Find a real web site that isn't an anti-Semitic based group, someone with real academic qualifications, and I might believe the things you are saying.

But, because every site you link to is some kind of hate group, I can't take any of the garbage they say seriously. And it amazes me that someone who appears to be as intelligent as you are would.

Really, what is the reason you hate Jews so much? What, specifically, in real terms (not some disjointed made up theory about some mythic conspiracy) have they (Jewish people) done to cause this hatred? Other than being perpetual victims for years on end, I can think of nothing...

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Ad Hominem attack.. again, par for the course

 

[Burt Gummer]

If you are a public/important figure and you don't care about your life, speak out against something that creates billions or trillions of profit for the <1%. Pharm drugs, war, those sort of things.

MLK was a shining example.

Preach war, fear and death and get a blue ribbon or maybe get chosen as the Noble Peace Prize winner. Preach peace and try to reveal who really benefits from same and .... 'bang.'

"What's the greatest way to dishonor Martin Luther King Jr.? Compare him with US President Barack Obama &#8211; a servant of an engine for the greatest disparity, inequality, and injustice on Earth &#8211; driven by the very corporate-financier interests King stood up against, was opposed by throughout his entire life, and most likely was killed by.

For Martin Luther King Jr. &#8211; whose famous speeches still echo through the halls of time, who spoke a message of peace and of the importance of character over the mere color of one's skin &#8211; he is ironically compared to Barack Obama simply because of the color of their skin, despite the fact that these two men possess the opposite in character, and represent infinitely opposing causes." Sheeple Blog

 

[Blitzkrieg]

You could also ask JFK about that

 

[One-Eyed Ross]

Ad Hominem attack.. again, par for the course

that wasn't meant to be an attack. It was an honest attempt to achieve an understanding of what is driving your hatred...Or at least what I perceive to be hatred of an ethnic group. If it isn't, I misunderstood your remarks.

 

[ATCclears]

One has to love Internet caching! Here is the Forbes article that they mysteriously took down...

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In 2000, New York legislators recognized the ubiquitous and unambiguous connection between violence, especially gun violence and mass murder, and the widespread prescribed use of psychiatric drugs. Senate Bill 7035 was introduced in the New York State Senate that year requiring police agencies to report to the Department of Criminal Justice Services (DCJS) on certain crimes and suicides committed by a person who is using psychiatric drugs, including assault, homicide, sex offenses, robbery offenses, firearms and other dangerous weapons offenses, kidnapping and arson. The preamble to the bill read, in part:

There is a large body of scientific research establishing a connection between violence and suicide and the use of psychotropic drugs in some cases. This research, which has been published in peer reviewed publications such as the American Journal of Psychiatry, The Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, and The Journal of Forensic Science, has shown, among other things, that: certain drugs can induce mania (a psychosis which can produce bizarre, grandiose and highly elaborated destructive plans, including mass murder);. . .and certain drugs can produce an acute psychotic reaction in an individual not previously psychotic.

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The bill died in committee. Since that time, there have been at least 12 additional high-profile mass murders linked to the use of psychiatric drugs, about one a year. And, in virtually every mass school shooting during the past 15 years, the shooter has been on or in withdrawal from psychiatric drugs. Here is a partial list of 24 such horrific events that occurred since 1998, not including the Virginia Tech shootings and the recent Sandy Hook shootings where the authorities continue to suppress information about whether and to what extent the shooters were on or in withdrawal from a psychiatric drug.

These examples are not unique. According to the Citizens Commission On Human Rights International (CCHR), between 2004 and 2011, there were 12,755 reports to the U.S. FDA's MedWatch system of psychiatric drugs causing violent side effects including: 1,231 cases of homicidal ideation/homicide, 2,795 cases of mania and 7,250 cases of aggression. Since the FDA admits that only one to ten percent of all side effects are ever reported to it, the actual occurrence of violent side effects from psychiatric drugs is certainly nine or ten times higher than the official data suggest.

Yet, federal and state governments continue to ignore the connection between psychiatric drugs and murderous violence, preferring instead to exploit these tragedies in an oppressive and unconstitutional power grab to snatch guns away from innocent, law-abiding people who are guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution the right to own and bear arms to deter government tyranny and to use firearms in self defense against any miscreant who would do them harm. Therefore, it is pharmaceutical makers, not law-abiding gun owners or gun manufacturers, who should be held to account for the series of "lone-wolf," mass shootings that have occurred since the widespread use of psychiatric drugs began.

Although it is doubtful any single variable can explain what causes someone to commit such unspeakable acts as we saw recently at Sandy Hook, one common denominator surfaces time and time again, in hundreds and hundreds of cases where a "lone wolf" commits violence, murder and mayhem for apparently no reason: Prescribed psychiatric drugs, which are well documented to induce mania, psychosis, violence, suicide and murder, including mass murder for no apparent reason by otherwise non-psychotic people.

Given the mass of supporting data linking psychiatric drug use/withdrawal and violence, and given the fact it has been ignored studiously by the U.S. Congress and federal agencies, it is well past time that Congress and state legislatures and government agencies at all levels formally investigate the well established link between prescribed use of psychiatric drugs, school shootings and similar acts of senseless violence.

This video reveals the indisputable connection between psychiatric drugs and violence, especially young "lone-wolf" shooters in gun massacres.

As psychiatrist Peter Breggin observes in the video:

"One of the things in the past that we've known about depression is that it very, very rarely leads to violence. It's only been since the advent of these new SSRI drugs that we've had murderers even mass murders taking these antidepressant drugs."

Instead of intimidating the NRA into negotiating away Americans' Second Amendment rights through its seat at the table in Washington, the government should be demanding answers and explanations from PhRMA and the pharmaceutical companies.

Instead of extorting NRA chairman Dave Keene and NRA president Wayne LaPierre into participating with the gun snatchers' efforts to nullify the Second Amendment in the name of reducing gun violence, why aren't the White House and Congress putting former Business Roundtable President and current head of PhRMA, John Castellani, along with the presidents of the pharmaceutical companies on the hot seat?

Why isn't Castellani sitting in on White House and congressional meetings about the connection between his products and mass shootings instead of Keene and LaPierre of the NRA?

Why isn't there a White House Task Force on the connection between psychiatric drugs and violence, suicide and murder, both gun related and otherwise?

Why aren't there congressional hearings on the connection between violence and psychiatric drugs?

Why aren't there bills being introduced in Congress and state legislatures to tighten down on the indiscriminate, unmonitored use of these killer drugs?

Why is the government still suppressing information about the shooters' psychiatric drug use at Sandy Hook and Virginia Tech?

Why is the government turning America into a police state in the name of protecting us against nonexistent "reefer madness" while it turns a blind eye to the real, deadly med madness created by psychiatric drugs and the uncontrollable violent rages they produce in some people?

Could it be there is a quiet conspiracy afoot among pharmaceutical companies, the government and the gun grabbers to make Mr. and Mrs. Gun Owner of America the patsies for the violence and to blame lone-wolf violence on guns rather than psychiatric drugs?

Could it be that power-hungry politicians and gun snatchers are out to exploit rare tragedies such as Sandy Hook and use the blood of innocent children to scare America into giving up its constitutional rights to own and bear arms and use them as a deterrent against tyranny?

Could it be that big pharma is today's big tobacco?

Could it be there is an intentional effort underway in the centers of power in Washington, DC to hide the truth from the American people about the strong connection between psychiatric drugs and violence and to protect the pharmaceutical companies from civil and criminal charges for their responsibility in these heinous crimes?

Could that be the explanation for why there continue to be lawsuits against gun manufacturers &#8212; not for defects in their products but rather for the misuse of their products by drug-addled individuals &#8212; and why there are few lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies for the obvious flaws in their products, which are producing violence and mayhem?

Could it be the Gun Control movement is simply a blind; just an effort by the triple alliance of left-fascists, big-government politicians and big-pharma prescription-drug dealers to dose and oppress the American people in the name of public safety, "officer safety" and social order?

The gun snatchers such as Sen. Dianne Feinstein, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg all shamefully exploit the bloody murder of children as a pretext to nullify the Second Amendment and short arm the American public with their so-called "assault-weapons" ban and ammunition/clip restrictions. The fact is, the kinds of guns used by mass shooters are far less relevant than the kinds of drugs they were prescribed.

 

[gehrheart]

Thank you for that. I wasnt able to make a copy before it was lost.

 

[ATCclears]

I think I posted these other two sites already, but I'll post them here again:

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Peter