No Citizenship to Vote

[zeezee]

Good night, man!
The Tea Party movement is not a National organization with a solid, one team leadership. Presently, at best it is a new "beginning" with a long way to go. It is merely in its embryonic stage! Currently, there motivation is t have "Citizen Legislators voted into office as it was a long, long time ago, so we can have a smaller smarter gov't.
You however, sound **** bent on condemning them at all costs.
And, when you use a clearly Socialist website to do so, your intentions become all too clear. Either that or you are just demonstrating your lack of unbiased research, or perhaps it's just a general lack of research motivated by that Pro Illegal Immigration, Pro Socialist, Pro-Obama website.
Let the readers decide.
done

 

[zeezee]

The reason you 'remember' it is because voter fraud is a reliable old canard trotted out every election season. As others have pointed out, there is very little widespread, systematic voter fraud in the US. Almost all of the articles you read about voter fraud are almost always voter *registration* fraud.

Even when Republicans controlled both the House, Senate and Oval Office, they didn't seriously pursue voter fraud. All they did was pass laws designed to disenfranchise some voters.

There is plenty of shenanigans around voter registration and ballot chicanery, but that's equal opportunity as both parties do it, and it doesn't lead to voter fraud.

And you expect the democrats to do something? They want the votes that's why during this lame duck congress they are going to be passing immigration reform, aka open the borders.
Oh, and what about patty murray using illegals to increase her chances of winning? Yeah, I know it's Bush's or the nasty republicans fault but no democrat ever does anything bad. Puke.

 

[Stomper]

borders for boarders..... nice.

 

[riverrat373]

And you expect the democrats to do something? They want the votes that's why during this lame duck congress they are going to be passing immigration reform, aka open the borders.
Oh, and what about patty murray using illegals to increase her chances of winning? Yeah, I know it's Bush's or the nasty republicans fault but no democrat ever does anything bad. Puke.

 

[Riot]

One site of many on the current state of the military vote.

Military Voters Disenfranchised

That is messed up

 

[gehrheart]

It is a shame, disrespectful and beyond disbelief.

 

[Jamie6.5]

And until those in the mainstream press choose to highlight the issue it will persist. The left doesn't like the military, or respect their political choices, so other than veteran's organizations and their publications, we won't hear a lot about it.

Even after a law was passed to prevent/reduce the problem, the states of New York and Massachusetts sued to avoid participation in the law.

 

[MikeE]

Here... Take a look at REAL FOREIGN MONEY screwing with our system

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Yeah? Well take a look at this article from the New York Times.
Financial Services Forum Sees Gains From Midterm Elections - NYTimes.com
The new Republican congress folks will be turning tricks for these CEO's like the $2 crack ho's that they are.

 

[MikeE]

No comment on Soro's foreign $$ influence in the White House, and in our political system, eh?

Last I checked, Soros was a US citizen. He made his money betting against foreign currencies. He runs a pretty decent philanthropy that, among many things, seriously messed with the plans of the former communist bosses in the old East Block,
That said, I oppose all big money in our elections, Soros included. I'm for limiting contributions to $100.00, and/or going with public funding of elections.

 

[gehrheart]

As well taking away their over the top salaries. Let the people vote to give them a pay increase. Don't they work for US? Who else can tell there boss that you just gave your self a pay raise?

They should earn an average working class wage. After all they claim to be for the working class, let them live like the working class.

 

[Jamie6.5]

On a sidenote - if people really wanted to solve the immigration crisis, forget about the the immigrants. In their position I'd probably do the same thing. Slap a non-negotiable 5K fine per violation on any employer caught hiring illegal immigrants without valid papers. Add a multiplier of jailtime for owners/principals/executives for repeat offenses. Of course, big agribusiness, chain restaurants and Wal*Mart would fight this tooth and nail, but it would make a big difference.

Who would fight it C&H?
Here is Craig Becker, Obama appointee (without Senate oversight or approval) to the National Labor Relations Board, advocating for dropping punitive sanctions against employers that hire illegals because they have a "punitive effect" the (illegal)alien workers, which he claims aren't going away.

Breitbart.tv &#187; Uncovered Audio: Obama's New NLRB Appointee Pushes No Punishment for Hiring Illegals

So there you go. The people you vote for are busy appointing people to government agencies that are diametrically opposed to your views.

It just gets warmer and fuzzier the further you dig into this admin's policies doesn't it!

 

[riverrat373]

As well taking away their over the top salaries. Let the people vote to give them a pay increase. Don't they work for US? Who else can tell there boss that you just gave your self a pay raise?

They should earn an average working class wage. After all they claim to be for the working class, let them live like the working class.

The average annual salary for a member of Congress is $174,000 a year. Not exactly a high rollers salary.

 

[riverrat373]

Well... Ahhh..... You're almost 1/3 correct with your diatribe
Go read some more of that most interesting stuff on your Progressive/Socialist website and get back to us

How about instead of being sarcastic, YOU enlighten us?

 

[gehrheart]

The average annual salary for a member of Congress is $174,000 a year. Not exactly a high rollers salary.

Yep, overpaid.

US average $81,000.

And cut all the "corporate" bonus's.

If they don't like it, don't run.

 

[riverrat373]

Put on the hat of objectivity, and pursue truth. Set aside your political ideology no matter what it is, left, center, or right (if you are able)
"Google" is your friend

You are the one who accused someone of being 1/3 rd right. The burden of proof is on you.

 

[riverrat373]

Who are you? A judge in a courtroom?

Facts are facts.
There's on old adage which states, "Make sure of all things, hold fast to what is truth"
The challenge is, to set aside our own prejudice and accept the facts as they are.
That is not to say, that after we acknowledge facts (truth) we then ignore them, and go back to our own beliefs as to what things should be, and how things should be.
Nonetheless, Truth and reality are static regardless of our own false paradigms.

You still have not backed up your statement to MikeE that he was only 1/3 rd right. You intimate that he was 2/3rds wrong. Show us!

 

[gehrheart]

. You intimate that he was 2/3rds wrong. Show us!

Really, Im not sure that is was he was meaning???????
[in-tuh-mit]
–adjective
1.
associated in close personal relations: an intimate friend.
2.
characterized by or involving warm friendship or a personally close or familiar association or feeling: an intimate greeting.
3.
very private; closely personal: one's intimate affairs.
4.
characterized by or suggesting privacy or intimacy; warmly cozy: an intimate little café.
5.
(of an association, knowledge, understanding, etc.) arising from close personal connection or familiar experience.
6.
engaged in or characterized by sexual relations.
7.
(of clothing) worn next to the skin, under street or outer garments: intimate apparel.
8.
detailed; deep: a more intimate analysis.
9.
showing a close union or combination of particles or elements: an intimate mixture.
10.
inmost; deep within.
11.
of, pertaining to, or characteristic of the inmost or essential nature; intrinsic: the intimate structure of an organism.
12.
of, pertaining to, or existing in the inmost depths of the mind: intimate beliefs.

 

[riverrat373]

Really, Im not sure that is was he was meaning???????
[in-tuh-mit]
–adjective
1.
associated in close personal relations: an intimate friend.
2.
characterized by or involving warm friendship or a personally close or familiar association or feeling: an intimate greeting.
3.
very private; closely personal: one's intimate affairs.
4.
characterized by or suggesting privacy or intimacy; warmly cozy: an intimate little café.
5.
(of an association, knowledge, understanding, etc.) arising from close personal connection or familiar experience.
6.
engaged in or characterized by sexual relations.
7.
(of clothing) worn next to the skin, under street or outer garments: intimate apparel.
8.
detailed; deep: a more intimate analysis.
9.
showing a close union or combination of particles or elements: an intimate mixture.
10.
inmost; deep within.
11.
of, pertaining to, or characteristic of the inmost or essential nature; intrinsic: the intimate structure of an organism.
12.
of, pertaining to, or existing in the inmost depths of the mind: intimate beliefs.

Try 5 & 8.

 

[riverrat373]

I intimated?

I shared my opinion

This is neither a court of law, nor did I give a deposition on his cut and pasted, lemming driven, diatribe.

No answer. huh?

 

[Stomper]

"Repetition is the mother of retention..."

It also aids in the learning process...