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No 2nd Ammendment Right, Schools now teaching no right to own firearms???

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by 1stklass, Apr 9, 2013.

  1. 1stklass

    1stklass salem oregon Well-Known Member

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    speeddemon94 The Rogue Well-Known Member

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    Bob D Oregon, Cascades Well-Known Member

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    Great. The only provision of the 2nd amendment is so that states can keep an armed National Guard... which these days is just a subdivision of the US Army.

    Sounds legit.
     
  4. 1stklass

    1stklass salem oregon Well-Known Member

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    Yeah you saw it at the same time i did! that is ridiculous!
     
  5. mosinguy1

    mosinguy1 out by the ocean Active Member

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    I think they need an assisted face palm with a 2x4. That is just utterly redonkuless!!!!!!!!! Bloddy bubblegumtards!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRR I dont think my cookies can take much more iceing!!!!!!!

    More propaganda to get more people away from the true meanings!!!!
     
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  6. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Public schools are one of the 10 planks of the communists guide to destroying a free nation
     
  7. DMax

    DMax Yamhill Well-Known Member

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    We all know that like the Fed Gov, schools are corrupt from the leftard R-peegressives teaching their communist ways, rewriting history, turning family values into their cesspool they call science, political morality and last but not least “social justice”.
    How to destroy a free country in less than a generation or 2. They are proud of this as an accomplishment. Sick and mentally disturbed.
     
  8. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Schools are trying to teach our kids to be pacifist!!! They want to push their liberal ideas on them so they come out of school AS liberals.
    We were really involved with what our 2 kids were learning and had many "discussions" with school officials over the years, it's like they have an agenda, like in politics!!!
    For those who still have young ones in school, please talk to them about what is being taught. You might be surprised at what you learn.
     
  9. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    "Pacifist" is just a PC way of saying "victim".
     
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  10. GunnyG

    GunnyG The Highlands Active Member

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    In the BoR, are the plural "people" described in the 2nd different from the plural "people" specifically described in the 1st, 4th, 9th and 10th (where the "state is mentioned separately), or much less the individuals singularly described as "owner" (3rd), "person" (5th) "accused" (6th) and implied in the 7th and 8th amendments?

    Anyone with an ounce of intellectual honesty coursing through their veins would be able to say "no, they are all the same individual".

    And then.... there are the 44 state constitutions that all state an individual right: http://www.trolp.org/main_pgs/issues/v11n1/Volokh.pdf

    Oregon 1857: “The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.”

    Washington 1889: “The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.”
     
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    Suge206 Seattle Active Member

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    you guys are too easy to rile up. Even if it were true, which I doubt it is. One middle school teacher 'going rouge' is not evidence of a greater communist plot to make your children in pacifists. There are checks in place to correct a teacher giving out bogus information.

    Get a grip.
     
  12. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    “‎A general State education is a mere contrivance for moulding people to be exactly like one another; and as the mould in which it casts them is that which pleases the dominant power in the government, whether this be a monarch, an aristocracy, or a majority of the existing generation; in proportion as it is efficient and successful, it establishes a despotism over the mind, leading by a natural tendency to one over the body.”


    ― John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
     
  13. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    Case after case after case after case after case prove you are wrong. There is a definite and pervasive agenda to dumb down the electorate and turn us into a nation of collective thinkers vs. individual thinkers; public education is part of this. Its been going on for decades which is one reason we decided for my wife to give up her substantial income in the late 90s to homeschool our three kids.

    When the teachers themselves are a product of this system, they don't even realize that they are willing facilitators.

    Keith
     
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    DMax Yamhill Well-Known Member

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    What are the checks in place Please enlighten us we are just giddy to hear this. Rubber Rooms don't count.
     
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    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    In defense of the school, prior to Heller and McDonald, that was the prevailing thought among liberal attorneys....
     
  16. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Didn't mean to be PC at all, to me Pacifist" means to lay down & let anyone do anything they want to you and it is ok because fighting and making a stand is so, like, childish...
    My kids will kick *** & take names if the situation arises, just like their old man. I like to joke around & have fun like the next guy, but when the time comes, (as UFC ring anouncer Bruce Buffer says) "it's time"!!!
     
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  17. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Oh yeah? Just like criminals will follow the gun laws we have to abide by. I call BS on ya.
     
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  19. mosinguy1

    mosinguy1 out by the ocean Active Member

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    I am going with stupid troll
     
  20. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Oh it's quite widespread, and even in college my government professor began to persecute me and gave a B for the course when I had earned an A.. this, after I spoke up to counter the exact same BS we are discussing in this thread.. this was early 1980s so it's nothing new, just hoplophobe-libtard "useful idiots" (Lenin called them that) who don't realize the minute this nation finally falls they will be the first ones the tyrannical government will put against the wall