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Nightvision

Discussion in 'Gear & Accessories' started by unionguy, Dec 13, 2011.

  1. unionguy

    unionguy Portland Active Member

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    Can people relay their experience with nightvision...gen1 or gen2 specifically. I don't have 3-4k to get into gen 3 or 4. What range is gen1 or gen2 effective out to? what's the biggest differences? Are they even worth having?

    I'd be interested in feedback on both bi-monoculars and rifle scopes.


    thanks,
    Ron
     
  2. TapRackNGo

    TapRackNGo PNW Well-Known Member

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  3. FreakSF

    FreakSF Boise Member

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    Most of my experience comes from the military and the military quality equipment night vision thermals and the new mix breed. I have some cheap monoculars that I have taken to the filed with me for fun. They are no PVS-14s but I remember the PVS-5s and they aren't much worse than those. Also I have a NV rifle sight that surprisingly is really nice. I'd say a little worse than PVS-7s but again it is no ANPAS-13. Maybe I’m just spoiled but I agree there is no way I’m spending $15,000 to own what I play with at work. BTW these are all for sale I'll be posting a page with all my extras here in a little bit. You know stupid Xmas always getting in the way of my gun stuff :)

    If you want to know anything else just ask...
    Sean

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  4. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    I've got a gen .5(starlight scope) and a gen 1+(monocular) and I can reach out and drill holes at 150m with the scope and drive with the lights off confidently at about 50kph with the monocle going. From what I've seen gen 2, 2+ is great for night hunts, clearly seeing your way on the move, but gen 1 will get you there as well.
     
  5. BlvdKing

    BlvdKing Almost Boring Member

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    I have an Aries Mk 208 that is pretty awesome and though not magnified would allow good combat hits out to 100-150 yards pretty easy. I haven't even put batteries in it in probably 4 years so not getting much use out of it. If you or anybody is interested I would be willing to sell or trade for something cool that I might actually get some use out of.
     
  6. Buddhalux

    Buddhalux Hillsboro, Oregon Active Member

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    I wouldn't mind picking up a gen1 or 2 mono with head harness sometime.
     
  7. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    To have a realistically effective system, you need to run a peq/headset combo. Having your only NVD mounted to your weapon means pointing your weapon at everything you look at. Not acceptable in any environment, especially not a domestic one.. and very easily hazardous to your own health.
     
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    Remadl700 Oregon Member

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    I was looking at purchasing One of these for a price of $470 new. I understand they only work out to 200 yards max for shooting. Based on all the reviews it sound very good for what you get. One thing I couldn't find was what is the expected life of the tube and will it handle 300wsm loads?

    Any other info would be good all so.


    Thanks
     
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    lickx miami New Member

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    Phillip Boisselle Oregon city Member

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  11. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    I see lots of guys mount smart phones and or cameras to their rifles.. I keep hearing recently on the radio advertisements that FLIR is going to partner with i phone.. offering a FLIR capable phone to the public.
    Perhaps they are trying to talk up an IPO or share price if it's already traded publicly.
    Who is not going to get one of those?
     
  12. Decker

    Decker My house Active Member

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    I don't know this for certain but wouldn't doing that backlight you and make you a very obvious target?
     
  13. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    I would imagine, were not "measures" taken. Kinda like a flashlight.. but magic. lol
     
  14. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Q: Aux. magnification for NV.

    As I understand it, the way a lot of non-thermal NV equipment works is it captures and amplifies existing low level ambient light (starlight, moonlight, city light that bounces off clouds and other surfaces), and then presents that on some kind of screen (phosphor or otherwise) - that "screen" basically being the equivalent of a CRT or LCD screen in principle.

    Close enough so far?

    So, when I have seen aux. magnification (i.e., separate from the NV equipment itself) for NV equipment, it has always been between the users eye and the "screen" on the NV device.

    So, it seems to me, that this magnification is not magnifying the actual view, but magnifying the screen, which is like looking at a television with a telescope. Not really magnifying as I understand it in the sense as you would look at a view during the day with a riflescope.

    Is this correct?

    If so, then is the magnification really that useful?
     
  15. JustShoot

    JustShoot Oregon . Hillsborito area Active Member

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    Yes you are looking at a 'projected image', in all NV & therm. equipment .
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    only thing funky funny about Therm. and it's image, is it will not look threw glass window. on the projected image all you see is the heat signature of the glass pain .
     
  16. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    Me. I can't stand crapple's products. :)
     
  17. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    I also carry a Bic to see in the dark. yo
     
  18. jjackffrost

    jjackffrost central oregon Active Member

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    I have a varo pvs-4 gen 2. it works and I got it for under a 1k. I have used it with a 30-06 and a 22. works best with the moon out, not the best but for the price i think it works well, and it can take a beating I have dropped it a few times and it still works.