Our town has an internet classified ad page and my wife forwarded me a link to a guy who was needed money more than some ammo odds and ends. From the pic posted I knew everyone would be fighting over the 22LR, but my eye immediately caught an out of focus box of 9mm. "How much for the Winchester JHP?" I inquired. "I shot 3 out of the box, so I am only asking $10 for the remaining 17". SOLD Not a bad deal for 147gr Black Talon 9mm at $0.59 each! So I bring them home and show my wife who says "The price tag is $8.99, and you paid $10. How is that a deal?" Followed by "The box is old. Are you sure these are still good?" I told her to open the box and take a look. "There are only 17 in here and you paid over full price" Then she removes a cartridge and examines the hollow point. "Oooo, these look mean. And dangerous." I think she gets it now.