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NFA trust

Discussion in 'NFA Weapon Discussion' started by OR_VARMINT_HUNTER, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. OR_VARMINT_HUNTER

    OR_VARMINT_HUNTER Banks,OREGON Member

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    So I wanna buy a suppressor and put it on a trust but how do u do it what software is best? Also after I do it with my suppressor how do I if ican go back later add a sbr or something?

    Thanks
    Jeff
     
  2. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Quiken Willmaker. Create a revokable living trust. Get it notorized. Send a copy of the Declaration of Trust and a copy of the Certification of Trust with your NFA paperwork each time you purchase a CL3 device. An RLT is like a box where you keep your NFA items or anything else...and you are the trustee of that box. It cant be photographed or fingerprinted, and it does not need a signoff from the local CLEO.

    Piece of cake to do.
     
  3. Scoundrel

    Scoundrel Western Wasington State Member

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    My local NFA dealer had a prepared form. Explained it all for me carefully. Helped me fill out the form. Sent me to the bank to get a cashier's check and get the trust form notarized.
    He said that the BATFE often changes little details about how they want the trust, or different inspectors interpret things differently. I benefited from his experience in that, no extra charge.
    There was a slight hiccup and some paperwork got sent back and forth, delaying my stamp by about a week, but they handled it for me quickly. The problem had something to do with the street address of the LGS (shrug).
    I was very impressed and pleased with their customer service. Obviously this can vary by location and employee.

    I suggest that you see if your NFA dealer will do this for you.

    BTW, mine was "Discount Gun Sales", specifically the Everett, WA branch. Obviously you'd need to find a closer one. Here's a list:
    Store Locations :: Discount Gun Sales LLC
     
  4. Scoundrel

    Scoundrel Western Wasington State Member

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    Adding a second NFA item to your trust is simple. Bring a copy of your trust back to the NFA dealer (doesn't need to be the original). They will add the new item to the Schedule A list. You will fill out a new application for the new item and send another cashier's check. Then you will wait for your tax stamp (again). This will happen with every new item, you do not get a shortcut with the BATFE by already having the trust - but you can skip the notarization thing for additional items, that part only has to happen once.
     
  5. mattdomes

    mattdomes Newberg Active Member

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    If you want anything special that willmaker will not do, contact Ski_dog, he set up my trust :)
     
  6. OR_VARMINT_HUNTER

    OR_VARMINT_HUNTER Banks,OREGON Member

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    What did that cost u Matt?
     
  7. PDXSparky

    PDXSparky Keizer / Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    This isn't a recommendation, just offering it for informational purposes only: GunDocx Gun Trusts | NW Gun Law Group $97 gun trust by a Washington state law group. Actually, Cocktailer recommended them to me when I talked with him about buying a can.
     
  8. OREGON FALER

    OREGON FALER Springfield, OR. Active Member

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    I contacted him (ski_dog) recently and he is charging $600.
     
  9. nforest

    nforest Eugene, OR & Costa Rica Active Member

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    I did this also, very happy with the outcome!
     
  10. Modeler

    Modeler Molalla, Oregon Soccer Fan

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    Me too. Great service, great outcome.
     
  11. telero

    telero Salem area, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I looked into the GunDocX trust. It's only $97 for Washington residents. For Oregon it's $125. These prices are for a basic single user trust (Bronze level). You can buy a more inclusive trust that allows multiple users, etc. for around $500 (Silver Trust). You can also upgrade from a Bronze to a Silver trust at a later time for the difference in cost between the trusts.

    I went through an Oregon lawyer that uses the GunDocX system rather than going through the NWGunLaw group. I used Alexandria Streich (Welcome) and it went very smooth. Handled everything over the phone and via e-mail.

    There is also another discount offered on the Silver level trust if you get a group presentation/purchase together. Anyone interested in trying to set up a group presentation? If the offer is still the same, it was $100 off the Silver price ($400 instead of $500) if we can get 5 people in on a presentation.
     
  12. mattdomes

    mattdomes Newberg Active Member

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    I can verify this, I set up a bit of a complicated one though... I had already tried WillMaker and NOLO.com and they would not do what I wanted.

    Ski_Dog is the best!
     
  13. Dogfish

    Dogfish Washington Member

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    Dennis Brislawn did my silver level trust. $500. Very flexible trust, adding and deleting is easy, temporary authorization for usage/possession of NFA items can be granted. Pretty slick. Two stamps so far with it, third and fourth in process.
     
  14. OR_VARMINT_HUNTER

    OR_VARMINT_HUNTER Banks,OREGON Member

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    So now I see this is kinda spendy is there an advantage to this over the "regular" way I have a sbr on a forum 1 already and getting ready to by the can so are there advantages trust vs regular way besides not needing to be signed off and finger prints and photo
     
  15. PDXSparky

    PDXSparky Keizer / Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Other people, listed on the trust as Trustees, can be in legal possession of the toys when you are not around. A trust also gives direction as to what happens to the toys should die.