NFA in each state

Just Jim · May 27, 2015

http://www.chron.com/news/nation-wo...-US-affected-by-the-6273255.php#photo-6552267

Idea of how many are out there.

CHLChris · Jul 6, 2015

I'm really surprised by 1,365 SBR's in Oregon. Presumably, a goodly portion of those are individuals with multiple SBR stamps. So, just 1,000 or so SBR owners in Oregon? Something about that sounds wrong. The way it reads here on NWFA, tons more people than that should be reflected in that number.

Oh well, facts are facts, I guess.

IronMonster · Jul 6, 2015

Yeah it is weird. Washington has four times more machine guns than SBR's even though machine guns have been illegal since 1994

Notice the Cali numbers? I know its because of high population but I am seriously surprised to see the California numbers

TOVO · Jul 6, 2015

IronMonster said:
Yeah it is weird. Washington has four times more machine guns than SBR's even though machine guns have been illegal since 1994

Agreed. Must include law enforcement numbers?

IronMonster · Jul 6, 2015

LEO guns I dont think are NFA items? Not sure about that. I assume they are all grandfathered guns which where owned prior to the 94 ban

Modeler · Jul 20, 2015

IronMonster said:
Yeah it is weird. Washington has four times more machine guns than SBR's even though machine guns have been illegal since 1994

Machine guns were (relatively) cheap back before 1994!

IronMonster said:
Notice the Cali numbers? I know its because of high population but I am seriously surprised to see the California numbers

There's a company in California (I forget the name) that owns thousands and thousands of NFA items for use in movies and TV. I read an article on them a few years ago, they're probably a large part of the numbers (along with LE of course).

IronMonster said:
LEO guns I dont think are NFA items? Not sure about that. I assume they are all grandfathered guns which where owned prior to the 94 ban

NFA guns owned by government agencies are still NFA items, but they're registered on a form other than the Form 4 we all have.

The B · Jul 20, 2015

Perhaps the NFA items in Cali are all grandfathered?

LEO guns, if owned by the LEO, are still privately owned guns, subject to NFA. Only department owned guns would be excluded.

Modeler · Jul 20, 2015

Ben Beckerich said:
Perhaps the NFA items in Cali are all grandfathered?

LEO guns, if owned by the LEO, are still privately owned guns, subject to NFA. Only department owned guns would be excluded.

Agency owned NFA items are not exempt from NFA requirements. They're registered on a Form 5, "Application for Tax Exempt Transfer and Registration of Firearm".

https://www.atf.gov/file/11371/download

The B · Jul 20, 2015

......excluded from requiring the individual officer to register.

Misternt · Jul 21, 2015

Agreed these numbers seem really small. I don't see any sources cited either.

wired · Jul 24, 2015

Stembridge was the california operation that had a bunch of movie guns. They went out of business years ago and there are other smaller operations doing it now. Machine Guns are legal but never approved to purchase in California.

The Oregon numbers are out of whack. 19,000 destructive devices and 1300 SBR's? What? Seems to me they might be counting law enforcement agency guns and 40mm grenades etc. instead of civilian guns and devices.