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Newsweek article on cops and smart guns (not biometric)

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by elsie, Oct 27, 2014.

  1. elsie

    elsie Way over there on the left Well-Known Member

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  2. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    it will be interesting to see if there is any backlash from leo's. it looks like there is a gps along with position of the gun when it is fired. no mention of using a fingerprint to let the gun be fired!!
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Many will find a new line of work. Many that do not will be killed from failed equipment and glitches with mechanics and electronics.
     
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    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    but it is used in the name of safety so times like in Ferguson would not happen:D
     
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  5. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    What is there about the left that just has to destroy, maim and cripple anything and everything that is good in this country. A mental commitment should be placed on everyone that even considers voting for a democommie.
    That comment may sound facetious, but there is near total truth in that statement and in many cases they don't even have a clue what they do, except they fall in line with the sheeple and lemmings headed for the cliffs.
    Sucking everything they come in contact down with them.
     
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  6. elsie

    elsie Way over there on the left Well-Known Member

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    That's why I put "not biometric" in the topic. It doesn't appear that this is one of those "only fire if you're the authorized user" foolishness. It is more like a black box to show what was happening with the firearm in the time leading up to the discharge.


    elsie
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Now that is really weird...... Does that one include a chip in the neck too ??
    1984 is becoming like a Donald duck comic book in comparison to what invasive bs is happening now.
    I really don't recognize my country any longer.
     
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  8. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Anyone care to guess how long it would take to slide down the slippery slope from this technology on Police Officer's guns to mandates on every gun? California would pass it in three weeks. Just like their microprinting law.
     
  9. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Kinda like the military when ya have an officer in "fire control" to tell you if you can fire or to abort....?
     
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  10. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    Caveman
    It will more likely lead to a "drone like" operator in the bowels of some building controlling the actual firing of the weapon. The officer will only serve as the carriage mechanism . . . The shootee will never see the face of the guy who actually pulls the trigger.

    Sheldon
     
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  11. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Yeah Sheldon, I hear ya, that was my intent.;)
     
  12. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    There's a big thick book written a long, long time ago mentioning something about locust swarms devouring everything of value that was in its path.... o_O
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    No better truth :)
     
  14. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Eventually:
    "They're coming at me HAL! Shoot, Shoot!!!"
    "That does not compute, David."

    Please contact: Federal Office of Software Flubs, District 4,097
    at: 1-80000000-6496250634-864532910076543760
    to report this glitch. Thank you, have a good day!

    "HAL?"
     
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  15. elsie

    elsie Way over there on the left Well-Known Member

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    Sigh...

    Like I said before ... it is NOT a chip for "shoot/don't shoot" or "only this guy can shoot this gun". IT IS NOT THIS.

    It is about whether or not the gun is in the holster, what angle, location (ie was it in the car), when it was fired, is it loaded and what not. Kind of like an airliner's black box.

    From the article, it looks like they're interested in using them like police body cams, or, in a case like Ferguson, was it discharged in the car.

    While I don't think I would want it as a permanent fixture, I think with some finer grained tweaking, it could determine if you're jerking the trigger or flinching when at the range.


    elsie
     
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    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    If the sigh was for my post please notice the word "eventually" at the beginning of the post. Oh, and sigh at yourself.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Not even for that. There is too much intrusion into our lives and that trend needs to reverse itself.
    In ALL things in our lives.
    When every public official and government employee, including all elected officials right up to the Whitehouse, allows their emails and their locations and everything they do 24-7 to be out in front of the entire citizenry and their images in plain view of every monitor from cameras and such 24-7, then we'll think about some of it, but until that happens this trend must be reversed.


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    I prefer smart cops with dumb guns, not the other way round.
     
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  19. elsie

    elsie Way over there on the left Well-Known Member

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    Naw, the sigh was for "the biometric safety has been discussed before (you can find the dead horse for that one over in the corner) and is almost universally known as a bad idea", let's talk about the potential uses of the telemetry (good or bad). But instead the discussion devolved immediately into the dead horse issue.

    If I'd really wanted to talk about that, I would have necro'd the other thread.


    elsie
     
  20. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Whether biometrics or telemetry, my concern would remain the same. How long would they be on cop guns before places like California and New York would be passing regulations to have them on all new guns sold in their states? I'm certain they'd love to be able to locate any gun at any time...