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News Article: UK most violent county in UK. More than US or South Africa

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Vantage, Mar 30, 2013.

  1. Vantage

    Vantage Pacific Standard Time Active Member

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    I always post the link and the entire article for those that don't like to click on links. But I will say that it's really worth going to the website to see some of the graphics there.

    The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S. | Mail Online

    The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.
    UPDATED: 18:14 EST, 2 July 2009
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    Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.
    Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.
    The figures comes on the day new Home Secretary Alan Johnson makes his first major speech on crime, promising to be tough on loutish behaviour.

    Britain has an even worse violence rate than South Africa (file picture)
    The Tories said Labour had presided over a decade of spiralling violence.
    In the decade following the party's election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million - or more than two every minute.
    The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:
    The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
    It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
    The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
    It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.
    But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.
    In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.

    The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609.
    Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: 'This is a damning indictment of this government's comprehensive failure over more than a decade to tackle the deep rooted social problems in our society, and the knock on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.

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    'We're now on our fourth Home Secretary this parliament, and all we are getting is a rehash of old initiatives that didn't work the first time round. More than ever Britain needs a change of direction.'
    The figures, compiled by the Tories, are considered the most accurate and up-to-date available.
    But criminologists say crime figures can be affected by many factors, including different criminal justice systems and differences in how crime is reported and measured.

    New Home Secretary Alan Johnson is to make his first major speech on crime today
    In Britain, an affray is considered a violent crime, while in other countries it will only be logged if a person is physically injured.
    There are also degrees of violence. While the UK ranks above South Africa for all violent crime, South Africans suffer more than 20,000 murders each year - compared with Britain's 921 in 2007.
    Experts say there are a number of reasons why violence is soaring in the UK. These include Labour's decision to relax the licensing laws to allow round-the-clock opening, which has led to a rise in the number of serious assaults taking place in the early hours of the morning.
    But Police Minister David Hanson said: 'These figures are misleading.
    Levels of police recorded crime statistics from different countries are simply not comparable since they are affected by many factors, for example the recording of violent crime in other countries may not include behaviour that we would categorise as violent crime.
    'Violent crime in England and Wales has fallen by almost a half a peak in 1995 but we are not complacent and know there is still work to do. That is why last year we published 'Saving lives. Reducing harm. Protecting the public. An Action Plan for Tackling Violence 2008-11'.'
    The timing of the Europe-wide violence figures is a blow for Mr Johnson, who will today seek to reassert Labour's law and order credentials.
    In his first major speech on crime since becoming Home Secretary, Mr Johnson is expected to promise a concerted crack down on antisocial behaviour.
    He wants to set up a website to allow the public to see what is taking place in their neighbourhood, such as the number of louts who have been served with Asbos.
    Mr Johnson is also known to support early intervention to stop children going off the rails.

  2. GunnyG

    GunnyG The Highlands Active Member

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    [typical KingCoWA voter] ... but their lethal-by-all-other-available means and nonlethal violent crimes are morally superior to armed self defense shootings here! [/typical KingCoWA voter]

    ... seriously.

    I wonder what the current stats say.
  3. GunnyG

    GunnyG The Highlands Active Member

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  4. tiggers97

    tiggers97 United States Well-Known Member

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    Another point that neither article makes: Gun crime in the UK was already low BEFORE the gun bans were in place. In fact, it has steadily increased (per 100,000) over the years.
  5. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Well in 2003 my Step dad was beat to death as a result of an attempted mugging in Plymouth England the Coroner rilled it an accident saying he most likely fell off a street car.

    His knuckles were all banged up as if he put up a hell of a fight (he was a street kid from Edinburgh Scotland) and his head was stove in with something the shape of a pipe.

    Took almost two weeks for him to die. My mom had to deal with it all alone.

    He had had 1 beer at dinner with a old school mate left to go back to his hotel. He fell through the door of the hotel unconscious in a bloddy heep and never regained conscious.

    There was nothing anywhere near the street car route or the front of the hotel he could have ran the top of his head into..

    So yea its a fun place to visit
  6. Misterbill

    Misterbill Yakima County, Washington New Member

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    The UK does a horrible job of classifying and tracking crime, which has resulted in a lot of wildly inaccurate crime rate reports.

    It's worse than the U.S., which should put to rest any notion that gun control leads to lower crime. But it's not nearly as bad as some have claimed.
  7. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Actually it's probably worse:
    Her if several apartments are burgled on the same night in the same building they are separate crimes, in GB they are all considered to be ONE crime and only counted as one.