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Reloading is a constant learning curve as changes in all things from powder,
bullets and new tech create a flux where one thing may not be idea for all
circumstances. I get into the habit of being over concerned that all is con-
sistant. With some powder, it doesn't mean squat if loads are over recom-
mended as the case can not hold a dangerous overload. An example is I
can't overload LilGun powder in my 22 Hornet because it is a low chamber
pressure with a very high velocity with light bullets type powder. The case
capcity is some where around 13gr with all the brands of brass I use. Should
I dip a load and be off some by not being consistant, there is no danger and a
range of a grain may not make a difference down range. Now 2400 or 110
can start popping primers and other not so cool things and operates at much
higher pressures no matter what the load is. These need to be measured!!!
The first powder is a kind of new one, that took that caliber from ho hum, to
a pretty neat preformer. The new loading books contantly change on max
loads to keep you safe, and I don't have the skills to dip or measure within
1/10 like a scale can. However, never had a max load where critical max
load powders produced an accurate load. I have made a few mistakes
during the fifty years of loading that I over came with out injury to myself or
rifle. One question I might ask is what charges is your measure or dipper
throwing if ya can't use a scale to measure it:huh: It takes practice for a
consistant throw of dip of powder, or you will get a huge difference of each
charge. Some powders are critical and others not. Most BR are limited
capacity cases and most likely a bulky type powder. Don't know as I'm
not part of the hole in one group, but maybe someday! You are correct in
that many powders a few tenths of a grain mean nothing. Getting in the
habit of doing the same thing the same way is most important. One of the
reasons that I prefer a single stage over progressive. Everything at that
stage is ready to go to the next one when you run out of cases. Final
powder and bullet seating , you can start and stop in each stage without
even thinking about it. Guess I'm more into quality rather then quanitity.
Each is free to do their own thing, but I really do not know how anyone
can safely measure powders without a scale and occasional checks that
charges continue to be consistant to follow the books recommandations.
Absolutely correct that thrown charges to be checked, and the same motion
motion on the measure handle is essential to even come close to being in the
ball park to near the same load each time. I use two methods, but con-
tinue to check thrown and dipped loads with a scale. As to BRs the type of
powder used, and if a bulk type, perhaps an eye ball that powder is in there
is sufficient. Don't know:huh: I think it's Trail Boss powder in cowboy
shooting a caseful is good to go. Bottom line is the removal of varibles gives
the most accurate loads. Some things like lot numbers can make a differ-
ence, but most shooters I don't know if it is a huge factor. Found BR prim-
ers over regulars are not worth the price difference. Also can't really say it
improves group size either. Guess it's all what works for you
bullets and new tech create a flux where one thing may not be idea for all
circumstances. I get into the habit of being over concerned that all is con-
sistant. With some powder, it doesn't mean squat if loads are over recom-
mended as the case can not hold a dangerous overload. An example is I
can't overload LilGun powder in my 22 Hornet because it is a low chamber
pressure with a very high velocity with light bullets type powder. The case
capcity is some where around 13gr with all the brands of brass I use. Should
I dip a load and be off some by not being consistant, there is no danger and a
range of a grain may not make a difference down range. Now 2400 or 110
can start popping primers and other not so cool things and operates at much
higher pressures no matter what the load is. These need to be measured!!!
The first powder is a kind of new one, that took that caliber from ho hum, to
a pretty neat preformer. The new loading books contantly change on max
loads to keep you safe, and I don't have the skills to dip or measure within
1/10 like a scale can. However, never had a max load where critical max
load powders produced an accurate load. I have made a few mistakes
during the fifty years of loading that I over came with out injury to myself or
rifle. One question I might ask is what charges is your measure or dipper
throwing if ya can't use a scale to measure it:huh: It takes practice for a
consistant throw of dip of powder, or you will get a huge difference of each
charge. Some powders are critical and others not. Most BR are limited
capacity cases and most likely a bulky type powder. Don't know as I'm
not part of the hole in one group, but maybe someday! You are correct in
that many powders a few tenths of a grain mean nothing. Getting in the
habit of doing the same thing the same way is most important. One of the
reasons that I prefer a single stage over progressive. Everything at that
stage is ready to go to the next one when you run out of cases. Final
powder and bullet seating , you can start and stop in each stage without
even thinking about it. Guess I'm more into quality rather then quanitity.
Each is free to do their own thing, but I really do not know how anyone
can safely measure powders without a scale and occasional checks that
charges continue to be consistant to follow the books recommandations.
Absolutely correct that thrown charges to be checked, and the same motion
motion on the measure handle is essential to even come close to being in the
ball park to near the same load each time. I use two methods, but con-
tinue to check thrown and dipped loads with a scale. As to BRs the type of
powder used, and if a bulk type, perhaps an eye ball that powder is in there
is sufficient. Don't know:huh: I think it's Trail Boss powder in cowboy
shooting a caseful is good to go. Bottom line is the removal of varibles gives
the most accurate loads. Some things like lot numbers can make a differ-
ence, but most shooters I don't know if it is a huge factor. Found BR prim-
ers over regulars are not worth the price difference. Also can't really say it
improves group size either. Guess it's all what works for you
