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Newberg School District's Illegal Gun Rules

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by drew, Nov 2, 2011.

  1. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    Government agencies in OR continue to illegally make firearms rules. I'm not surprised.

    Rep Thatcher's letter to the Newberg Graphic is in the OFF link and here.

    Oregon Firearms Federation

     
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  2. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Sure,it doesn't effect her pay....yet
    $50k? I don't have to pay it.
     
  3. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    The residents of the district should sue her personally. If she is willingly breaking the law and causing financial harm to the district it might work.
     
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  4. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The school district can have a RULE prohibiting firearms from the school grounds but unless something drastic has changed in the way LAWS are enacted in the State of Oregon they can't make it illegal to have a firearm on school property. No police office would have a Law to arrest anyone under. And since school property is public property I don't see how unless you were doing something illegal they could tresspass you.

    Unless I'm really missing something here.
     
  5. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    They are regulating firearm possession. This is very similar to what the universities did with an administrative rule that the court of appeals overturned. They are prohibited by law from making the rule prohibiting the activity.

    166.170 State preemption

    Except as expressly authorized by state statute, the authority to regulate in any matter whatsoever the sale, acquisition, transfer, ownership, possession, storage, transportation or use of firearms or any element relating to firearms and components thereof, including ammunition, is vested solely in the Legislative Assembly.
     
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  6. HappyRoman

    HappyRoman Sherwood Forest Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Maybe, just maybe, Newbergin's don't care how they are not protected by elected officials or are just ignorant of the law. Those with Guns will protect themselves most times, and the rest can act like sheep.
     
  7. nubus

    nubus Guest

    Although carry is widely accepted in most instances in Washington, I really like the idea of the Oregon preemption. Kind of makes it crystal clear. Someone was really looking out for gun owners rights when that was enacted.
     
  8. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    You do realize that Washington already has full state preemption don't you?

    RCW 9.41.290: State preemption.

     
  9. nubus

    nubus Guest

    Wow. As many places (Seattle Parks most recently) that keep issuing bans I didn't realize we had one. However schools and bars are legislated no zones here in WA. Thanks for the info deen_ad!
     
  10. simpleguy

    simpleguy Clackamas Active Member

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    Wow! The gall Superintendent Paula Radich has shows she needs to go to the private sector or the unemployment line, I really don't care which. This disrespect for not only our Constitution, but our State Laws and legal system are not the example our children should be led by.
     
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  11. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Schools are not in Washington

    RCW 9.41.280: Possessing dangerous weapons on school facilities

     
  12. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Aw come on guys, she is the 2010 Oregon Superintendent of the Year.

    “Dr. Radich’s leadership and influence in the Newberg/Dundee area are unmatched,” said Dr. Linder Gerber, President of Portland Community College Sylvania Campus. “She is highly respected and her dedication to the community is well known. PCC considers Dr. Radich a visionary educational partner who personifies the idea of access to education.”

    Clearly, she knows what's best for everyone.

    Pfft!
     
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    jkent26 Rainier, OR Member

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    Can someone put this in dumb redneck terms....Is it legal to carry a weapon on public school grounds?
     
  14. Asp

    Asp Oregon, the promise land. Active Member

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    Do you have a CHL? If so, yes.
    But they can ask you to leave if they find out.
     
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    CharonPDX Portland, OR Active Member

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    Asp, they can ask, but as long as you otherwise have a legal right to be there, they have no standing for making that the only reason for removing you. Of course, I'm not going to test that.
     
  16. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Isn't that how the Western Oregon University fiasco started, they had the same "rule" that was against state law, had him arrested for carrying in a public building, expelled him from school, etc. I'm pretty sure what's what sparked the whole lawsuit against the oregon university system. Even if you are in the right, it could take a lot of time and money to prove it.

    Apparently this school district doesn't care.
     
  17. Abiqua

    Abiqua Oregon Active Member

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    As an Oregon resident, it looks like in this scenario my Utah permit doesn't cover me like my Washington permit did. For the sake of argument, I have school aged relatives that attend school in Washington.
     
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  18. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    It is time to start writing LETTERS.

    Newberg Graphic Newspaper Letters to the Editor Link:
    Newberg Graphic | Submit Letter To The Editor

    --------------------------

    Newberg School Board Members & Contact Information:
    Melinda Van Bossuyt
    Board Chair, Director Zone 3
    Elected in 1997
    503-538-5717
    melinda@springcreekllamas.com
    Polly Peterson
    Director Zone 2
    Elected in 2011
    503-538-6923
    popeters@gmail.com
    Todd Thomas
    Director Zone 4
    Elected in 2009
    503-780-4880
    no valid email
    Jim Chogyoji
    Vice Chair, Director Zone 5
    Elected in 2005
    503-538-9530
    no valid email.
    Mitsi Vondrachek
    Director Zone 6
    Elected in 1999
    503-538-4241
    no valid email
    Debbie Hawblitzel
    Director Zone 7
    Elected in 2005
    503-537-0888
    debbiehawblitzel@comcast.net
    To get in touch with any Director, you may contact him/her directly or contact School Board Secretary Mikaela Schamp at 503-554-5041 schampm@newberg.k12.or.us
    Mailing Address for the Board
    Board of Directors
    Newberg School District 29J
    714 East 6th St
    Newberg, Oregon 97132
    Newberg School District Superintendent
    Paula Radich
    (503) 554-5042
    radichp@newberg.k12.or.us
     
  19. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Or ,probably escorted out by the policia.
    And detained ,held until you can show them where they are wrong,guns taken
    You get the picture.
    If it's one of the schools that have a patrol officer on the campus,I would bet he would get backup and take you a$$ down,brother.
    I would bet most LEOs don't know it's legal with a permit.
     
  20. macdougall29

    macdougall29 Newberg, Oregon, United States Active Member

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    Well I live in Newberg and my daughter goes to one of the elementary schools. I carry occasionally when I drop her off or pick her up and at most sporting events that I attend. Although I do not carry when I am volunteering at the school for special events or if I am inside the building for longer periods of time.

    I wrote an e-mail to the superintendant and cc'd the school board members as well and the response I received was less than acceptable in my mind;

    "Thank you for writing me of your concern."

    Really? That is all you have to say on the topic? Very weak...

    I encourage anyone to write in and give your opinion, especially anyone that lives within the school district boundaries. If we all stay quite nothing will happen and those with less common sense will prevail!