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New gun control effort, with a playbook

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Dave Workman, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  2. peetar

    peetar Kitsap County Active Member

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    These people will never, ever give up. We need to learn from them. We need to fight these people legislatively on every front instead of playing defense. California should be our new battleground...a lot of people have given up on the state. Even tiny victories there would make them panic and spend money on defense. Now is a good time since they are completely STRAPPED. Look what they are doing in Texas. They are attacking us in places that we would never attack them.

    An observation that I feel is worth sharing, a lot of people do not realize that every legislative action is funded by the same groups so attacking any one of them is attacking all of them. The Chinese call this the "Total War" philosophy.

    This is why I oppose Gay marriage and other pet issues of the left. I could really care less about those issues as I am a Libertarian...but if they get their way on each one of those issues, it frees up money they can spend on gun-control related legislation and other issues I care about. They can freely spend now on Socialist programs that kill freedom, jobs and enslave the poor.

    We need to be taking a policy of TOTAL war. All leftist policies are inter-related. Be on the attack, always. Not on the defense. Agitate the left at all costs. Shine the light on their schemes and fight them everywhere.

    Thanks, Dave.
     
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  3. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    It was the apathy of the German people that allowed Hitler to push his ultra progressive agenda. Stay engaged!!
     
  4. ThePhonMan

    ThePhonMan Spokanistan Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    I didn’t know that guns where inherently violent pieces of equipment. All by themselves they can’t do any damage, let alone violent acts. What about those garbage disposals, blenders, chainsaws?

    Why aren’t they screaming about “fist violence”, “knife violence”, “vehicle violence”, etc. Or, more importantly, VIOLENT PEOPLE regardless of the weapon of choice.

    I’m really tired of the cutesy language that these special interests use to frame their absurd arguments. Why can’t we use our big boy or girl words and have an actual adult conversation?

    I’d love to ask for an intent statement from anyone pushing any agenda item before they are allowed to speak. At least we would have the frame of reference for the rest of the conversation. “My intention is to disarm you peasants, now let me tell you how… Reasonable, common sense, everyone can agree, it’s for the children, if it prevents one incident, etc.”

    Great article Dave. Know thy enemy.

    Brian
     
  5. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    And know thy friends.

    This bunch has, according to my intel, got its eye on Washington state, most likely due to I-594.
    This is a fight you can help win. Support Protect Our Gun Rights and, as Dunerunner so sagely points out, stay engaged.

    These people are in it for the long haul.
     
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  6. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Dont forget you can now make donations with paypal also.
     
  7. peetar

    peetar Kitsap County Active Member

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    I WILL be donating!
     
  8. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    You NEED to read the links in Dave's article, the question and answer sections in particular. Read them and think about how you will respond to their statements, because they are very organized and very good at memorizing talking points, so you will hear them. Their game is frankly, at the moment, better than ours.
     
  9. bnsaibum

    bnsaibum Corvallis, OR Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer

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    Unfortunately, I agree with your last statement. What I find amazing is that even with our lack of organization and polish we have held as long as we have.
     
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    bnsaibum Corvallis, OR Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer

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    Dave has succinctly elucidated that their goals remain the same and it is only the particular words they use that have changed; "There is nothing about prohibiting infringement of the right to keep and bear arms. Indeed, their talking points in the Message Guide addendum appear to be all about how to push such infringements with clever semantics." A clear case of this is the use of the phrase 'gun safety'. We understand what this rightly means. Your attitudes and practices as you handle firearms. What the prohibitionists mean when they say 'gun safety' is entirely different. They mean laws, regulations and people control. Excellent examples of their attempts at newspeak are linked in Dave's articles and here and here.

    It is critical for us to counter any of their attempts at subterfuge whenever they use their new jargon and call them on their b.s.
     
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  11. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    See, the anti gun hits every possible venue, both political and private. We need to be able to also hit every aspect and kind of politics and subjects here to counter them.
    To not be able to do that is making us run a race with shackles on.
    Frustrating !
     
  12. cookie

    cookie THE SOCIALIST STATE OF KALI - FORNIA Well-Known Member

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    It was the same 53% of the voters who voted twice for O bambar. Look for them to vote Hillary 2016 and the majority on the California morons to reelect Feinstien ,Pelosi and Boxer again. Name recognition is where it is at for the TV sports watching Voter.