Washington New federal gun control in omnibus bill

[Mathias]

Will the gun control bill which gives the federal govt jurisdiction over all gun laws in the just passed ommnibus bill, including state laws take our rights away at the local level? And can it be fought in court? No smartass answers......

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[ma96782]

I haven't looked it up. But......

If you voted for any candidate in the "D" category. Why are you (or anyone else who voted "D") so surprised?

They've been after, (FEDERAL GOVT.) "universal" gun laws for a long time. You know.....so that they wouldn't have to mess with the Consitution of the US.

But, you know something? They are almost there.....

The 2nd Amendment according to the Liberals..…
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, unless I say it's reasonable and makes common sense to me."

Then......

Ending the Epidemic of Gun Violence

Gun violence is a public health crisis in the United States. Over 100,000 people are shot and nearly 40,000 people die annually from guns—devastating countless families, friends, and communities. We can and will make gun violence a thing of the past. Addressing the gun violence crisis requires supporting evidence-based programs that prevent gun deaths from occurring in the first place, including by making mental health care more accessible and supporting suicide reduction initiatives, funding interventions to reduce homicides and gun violence in neighborhoods, and strengthening protections against domestic violence. Democrats will also ensure the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have sufficient resources to study gun violence as a public health issue, including the ongoing health care, mental health, economic, and social costs that can affect survivors and their families for years. Democrats will enact universal background checks, end online sales of guns and ammunition, close dangerous loopholes that currently allow stalkers, abusive partners, and some individuals convicted of assault or battery to buy and possess firearms, and adequately fund the federal 47 background check system. We will close the "Charleston loophole" and prevent individuals who have been convicted of hate crimes from possessing firearms. Democrats will ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high capacity magazines. We will incentivize states to enact licensing requirements for owning firearms and extreme risk protection order laws that allow courts to temporarily remove guns from the possession of those who are a danger to themselves or others. We will pass legislation requiring that guns be safely stored in homes. And Democrats believe that gun companies should be held responsible for their products, just like any other business, and will prioritize repealing the law that shields gun manufacturers from civil liability.

Taken from: 2020 Democratic Party Platform PDF


Aloha, Mark

PS......BUT WAIT!

 

[Member 53328]

I haven't looked it up. But......

If you voted for any candidate in the "D" category. Why are you (or anyone else who voted "D") so surprised?

They've been after, (FEDERAL GOVT.) "universal" gun laws for a long time. You know.....so that they wouldn't have to mess with the Consitution of the US.

Know something......they are almost there.....
The 2nd Amendment according to the Liberals..…
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, unless I say it's reasonable and makes common sense to me."

Then......

Ending the Epidemic of Gun Violence

Gun violence is a public health crisis in the United States. Over 100,000 people are shot and nearly 40,000 people die annually from guns—devastating countless families, friends, and communities. We can and will make gun violence a thing of the past. Addressing the gun violence crisis requires supporting evidence-based programs that prevent gun deaths from occurring in the first place, including by making mental health care more accessible and supporting suicide reduction initiatives, funding interventions to reduce homicides and gun violence in neighborhoods, and strengthening protections against domestic violence. Democrats will also ensure the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have sufficient resources to study gun violence as a public health issue, including the ongoing health care, mental health, economic, and social costs that can affect survivors and their families for years. Democrats will enact universal background checks, end online sales of guns and ammunition, close dangerous loopholes that currently allow stalkers, abusive partners, and some individuals convicted of assault or battery to buy and possess firearms, and adequately fund the federal 47 background check system. We will close the "Charleston loophole" and prevent individuals who have been convicted of hate crimes from possessing firearms. Democrats will ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high capacity magazines. We will incentivize states to enact licensing requirements for owning firearms and extreme risk protection order laws that allow courts to temporarily remove guns from the possession of those who are a danger to themselves or others. We will pass legislation requiring that guns be safely stored in homes. And Democrats believe that gun companies should be held responsible for their products, just like any other business, and will prioritize repealing the law that shields gun manufacturers from civil liability.

Taken from: 2020 Democratic Party Platform PDF


Aloha, Mark

PS......BUT WAIT!

18 GOP Senators Voted for Gun Control | GOA

In Under 48 Hours, VAWA Gun Control Was Rammed Through Congress Congress just passed a law to deputize your local police as ATF agents and to fund criminal investigations into mistaken NICS denials of law-abiding citizens. Biden is set to sign the law before midnight. We need you to take action...

www.gunowners.org

plenty of (R) voted for it too. Names of which are in the article above. If this is the same bill being mentioned. If not I apologize.

 

[ma96782]

Yeah.....RINOs.

And of course......The Standard Disclaimer Applies

Aloha, Mark

 

[CamoDeafie]

Gonzales Vs Raich 2005, United States vs Stewart 2006, and the 2008 9th District case vs Montana for Montana's firearm freedom act; all have been used to determine that the Federal Government have authority in regulating intrastate firearms commerce, and that Fed gun control laws supersedes State laws; as well as (ab)using the Federal Supremacy Clause and Commerce Clause
The one case, one SCOTUS decision I think it was... that worked in our favor is the Printz Vs United States decision, the very same case that immigrant lawyers have been using for Sanctuary Cities and States and it was originally a gun rights case.

 

[User 1234]

Printz was not a gun rights case, although the factual circumstances did involve guns. It was a federalism case deciding whether the federal government could force a state's executive branch (an Arizona and a Montana sheriff in that case) to enforce federal laws. The US Supreme Court ruled that it could not. https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/521/898/#tab-opinion-1960203


The same question and same decision would have resulted if the factual circumstances were the federal government trying to force a Maine bakery inspector to enforce a federal law requiring 26 sprinkles on each donut.

 

[CamoDeafie]

The point stands, that one decision could be used against the gun control portion of the omnibus spending bill since it talks about the ATF (Federal) using State/local law enforcement by deputizing to override those state/counties which have 2A protection/freedom statues and laws on the books.

 

[SonicBlue03]

So they're federalizing LEOs to try and prevent more FBI f-ups. That's fun.

Police are over a barrel. On one hand; most spend their time wanting to make society safer for citizens. On the other, flip the switch and they need to potentially betray the very citizens they have intended to protect.

 

[Member 53328]

Yeah.....RINOs.

And of course......The Standard Disclaimer Applies

Aloha, Mark

Elephants, donkeys, or rhinos….. doesn't matter to me. They are all solely looking out for themselves and the profit they can make. They have zero desire to work for or protect the American people. #APAC.

 

[User 1234]

The point stands, that one decision could be used against the gun control portion of the omnibus spending bill since it talks about the ATF (Federal) using State/local law enforcement by deputizing to override those state/counties which have 2A protection/freedom statues and laws on the books.

This bill actually provides funding for state agencies who choose to participate, it doesn't force them to do the federal government's work.

 

[RobMa]

Gun Violence is FAKE News

Why isn't the term "gun benevolence" used when guns are used to save lives? This article explains the sinister use of the term "gun violence."

www.ammoland.com

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[Member 52301]

^^^

"Guilty Until Proven Innocent" - Biden Signs New Backdoor Gun Control Into Law

BY TYLER DURDEN
TUESDAY, MAR 15, 2022 - 06:20 PM
Submitted by The Machine Gun Nest (TMGN).,
President Biden has signed a $1.5 Trillion spending bill that sends $13.6 Billion to Ukraine and funds the Government until September. The bill itself passed the Senate with a bipartisan 68-31 vote.

As we've reported before, the Biden administration's only way to pass gun control at all is by backdoor means. So, of course, they've hidden gun control in a massive spending bill designed to fund the Government. Hidden within this 3000-page bill were two significant pieces of gun control.

MORE on Nick's LINK above.

Cate

 

[Member 52301]

Gun Control = People Control.

Cate
PS: I wonder how much of the 13.6 BILLION dollars are going into the Bidens, the Ukraine's president = former comic/actor - attention whore - ON THE TAKE, other mobsters in Ukraine, and other mobster D and R pockets in the USA?! UGH.

The money laundering SCHEMES, THEFT, other crimes from a to z including WAR CRIMES (Russia, Ukraine, etc.) continue on nationally and internationally. Pathetic!

Old Joe and the rest of their DIRTY ILK who adore SOROS and other dirty men/women should just open up their OWN pockets/wallets/bank accounts and SELL some of their properties and stocks to FUND all of these countries worldwide instead of sucking the honest - hard working and retired American Taxpayers dry.

Funny on how these CROOKS go on about freedom while they continue to SCREW, rape and ROB honest Americans?! They are EVIL people and how can you tell when they are LYING? When their LIPS are MOVING!

Oh yes - I forgot! EFF Trudeau!

 

[RobMa]

This bill actually provides funding for state agencies who choose to participate, it doesn't force them to do the federal government's work.

Perhaps, but we all know too well that the people who run the blue states will be more than happy to participate with this anti-gun rhetoric.

 

[User 1234]

Perhaps, but we all know too well that the people who run the blue states will be more than happy to participate with this anti-gun rhetoric.

Yes, and that is why the Printz decision does not invalidate this new law. This new law does not force state governments to participate. It bribes them to do so.

 

[RobMa]

Yes, and that is why the Printz decision does not invalidate this new law. This new law does not force state governments to participate. It bribes them to do so.

So, our own tax dollars will be used to persecute us.... hmmm? what would the founding fathers do in this situation?

 

[User 1234]

So, our own tax dollars will be used to persecute us.... hmmm? what would the founding fathers do in this situation?

This has been the case since the country began.

 

[RobMa]

This has been the case since the country began.

I was trying to be sarcastic...