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Similar but different. I agree that the way we were raised had something to do with it. I grew up in the woods, in an area that has been evacuated due to wildfire three times in 30 years. Needless to say, work became a friend early, as the near constant cutting of brush likely saved my mother's home on at least one of those occasions.
If you learn early that you have to earn the results you want in life, you become a hard worker and stay that way. If you learn that you can be complacent and still be kinda comfortable, you stay that way. Too many people's kids learned the latter.
Additionally, and this is something I rarely mention, as it can be unwise to reveal too much about oneself, but I was once homeless. Like real, living out of a backpack, by hook or by crook homeless. It was mostly my doing. Not drugs, but the why and how of how I became homeless is less important than the fact that I worked my bubblegum off to not be homeless any longer. I didn't wait for a handout, I didn't rely on others to undig my hole. I did it. And I am very proud of what little I have. The thing that frustrates me the most is that I have family members who will look at that and say things like "well, if we had a universal income, you would have never been homeless". Maybe. But, even so, I would have never gained in character, or skill, or tenacity. I would not have learned what it's like to need, as opposed to just "not having". I would never have been forced to look at myself and change the necessary things that I needed to be where I am now.
I am not trying to be an example as much as I am using my experience to illustrate why these socialist programs are not a good idea, at least in my opinion. I hope that at some point, people younger than myself and some others here learn that through hard work and adversity, you build the person you are supposed to become.
 
That bill also says that you won't be able to buy "parts kits" for firearms that meet those definitions either.

They did not define "parts kits"
 
These Idiots learn about this stuff from People like Us , They watch lube tube and read gun forums ect. Otherwise they would not even know what any of the mentioned items are refered as where they come from or that they exists. If they had their way we would all be taking up knitting as a hobby.


Actually, if they had their way you'd be tooling around on a bicycle wearing a coolie-hat, mowing their lawns, cleaning their garbage cans, shining their shoes, and eating a daily ration of rat meat and rice, all while they look down on you from their hilltop McMansions set at 72*F all year long.... o_O



Frak it, where's my jars of gasoline and road flares!! :s0118::s0007:
 
Actually, if they had their way you'd be tooling around on a bicycle wearing a coolie-hat, mowing their lawns, cleaning their garbage cans, shining their shoes, and eating a daily ration of rat meat and rice, all while they look down on you from their hilltop McMansions set at 72*F all year long.... o_O



Frak it, where's my jars of gasoline and road flares!! :s0118::s0007:

Maybe you and Carol have something in common...

 
When Suzzane Bonanci spoke at Pacific University she said they believed they were being very fair to gun owners and respected all rights. She said they relied on their experts. This along with a weak NRA who let the masses believe they hold the power with gun rights and from my point if view, only speak out when they think they can win.

Relying on the Republican Senate to block gun control efforts after another big event when the dems will parade the dead is a bridge too far. They've had two years with full control and have proven their oath is less important than their careers.
 
After 1639 passing in every county in Washington except 5 nothing surprises me anymore.


If you aren't ready for the war then your late to the party.
Don't know where you're getting your numbers...

25 counties had the majority say NO to 1639.
14 counties had the majority say yes to 1639.

unfortunately the 14 that said yes has significantly higher population and higher concentrations of anti-gun liberals.
 
I wonder how long it will take to outlaw cnc machines, lathes and blocks of steel and aluminum.

The feds have already have placed buying and moving restrictions on very high end ITAR State Department Export/Import Controlled Machines "Five Axis Simultaneous Control Currently". The feds also keep revising the export control USML and more and more smaller less sophisticated machines have to become gps/gyro locked to 1 location and well if you move it you have to call the mfg for a expensive service call and get a code to unlock it once the sensor is tripped.

Removing / Bypassing and/or Disabling any electronic export control device required to be in place under ITAR comes with hefty fines and long federal hotel stay...

Just look at California on the raw materials.
 

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