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A PSI reading would be better, same as a temperature gauge being better than a warning light.

With my TPMS every time I had a low tire indication, the low tire measured exactly 5 PSI less than what I had originally set. There was a time when I wish it would hold off until 10 PSI low, but I'm fine with 5 now. Even better would be if I could adjust the warning threshold myself.

The batteries are good for ten years.
Yikes! I didn't even know those things had batteries! That changes the equation a little. I can see where someone would get frustrated with that. My car is older than ten years, but maybe the batteries got swapped out sometime when it was in for service. I do some of the servicing on my car but not very much any more.
 
Yikes! I didn't even know those things had batteries! That changes the equation a little. I can see where someone would get frustrated with that. My car is older than ten years, but maybe the batteries got swapped out sometime when it was in for service. I do some of the servicing on my car but not very much any more.
This is why they change the sensors when you replace the tires.
 
Did you notice the cabin conditioner spray soma, the "radio" start playing "the sound of music" and the choad massager switching to "pacify" right after you posted that?
If not, prepare for a re-boot where the system thoughtfully drives into the nearest wall.
Failing that there's always a mere flimsy chainlink between your modern Christine-car and an in-ground swimming pool…. and to think, you cheaped out on option the individual flotation devices!
 
Failing that there's always a mere flimsy chainlink between your modern Christine-car and an in-ground swimming pool…. and to think, you cheaped out on option the individual flotation devices!
I know of that movie, but I didn't see that movie.

Individual flotation devices went away with the tubeless tires. :)
 
Did you notice the cabin conditioner spray soma, the "radio" start playing "te sound of music" and the choad massager switching to "pacify" right after you posted that?
If not, prepare for a re-boot where the system thoughtfully drives into the nearest wall.
Sometimes I can't tell if you are the most creative funny guy I've ever read, or there's something wrong with you. that would be wrong in a good way, of course.
Have you met the average American lately? Dull knives is the ordinary now!


Totally vehicle dependent. Both of mine have oil & coolant temp gauges.

There is a sensory overload occurring in modern vehicles. My wifes' Suburban will vibrate the seat unless you turn off the lane departure system. It damn near made me jump out of the seat the first time it happened to me!

My Bronco has none of it and I purposely bought the version I did for that reason. The only thing it has is the lane departure, but it's off by default.


So did I. I've noticed that side-view mirrors suck in most vehicles. I can see the whole world behind me with the F350 and the Bronco mirrors are pretty good, but the Suburban ones suck!
I think the majority of all this crap is coming down from the politicians. Just like their damned mileage requirements.
 
I think the majority of all this crap is coming down from the politicians. Just like their damned mileage requirements.
TPMS is or sure, as is traction control. I'm not sure about the other stuff. NHTSA regulates all that, which of course takes their orders from the critters in DC.

We can thank Obama for CAFE standards.
 
I am vehicle poor (11, I think) and while I like the newer stuff, the oldies keep on going without too much headache. Like my 2006 silverado with 276K on original motor & trans...just regular maintenance items is all I've put into it. Love driving it when going shopping and park it right up close to the front door....people come out to their bmw or mercedes or caddy & about crap when they see that rusty looking piece parked next to them even though I'm not the kind that will door ding anyone's vehicle....it's still fun to watch the expressions. When I drive one of the newer/nicer vehicles, I always park out in the hinterlands to avoid door dings.

The banter about TPMS is amusing but just wait until you have an Airbag code pop up...tracking down the actual cause may result in baldness!

With new cars come new problems and I would suggest folks invest in a decent OBDII code reader...one that can not just read codes but have the ability to clear out codes (recent/permanent codes). The one I prefer to use is the Blue Driver....can get off Amazon for <$100 and it will show/clear ABS, Airbag, SRS, TPMS codes. Use with an app on your cellphone and can pull all kinds of current reference material off their ever expanding database for a plethora of vehicles and no subscription fee. Other OBDII readers require periodic data updates and/or subscriptions. I got rid of all my old code readers after getting the BD. The electronics/sensors on the newer stuff is pretty amazing and if you want to get around some of the perceived annoyances, there are ways to bypass....you just need to do a little interweb searching. :cool: Also, if you want to go fast, you can tune the newer vehicles to do that in short order much easier than in the old days.

I do all my own mechanics (other than tires/alignment) and almost always buy new and hold onto my vehicles for many years/miles...this way I know what I have and can keep track of things. I don't trust anyone else but me when it comes to mechanic work on my vehicles. The money I save by pulling my own wrenches helps pay for my "toys". I should mention the age of my vehicles starts at 1931 and goes up to 2019.....some are high performance/some are not.
 
I daily drive an 06 Duramax, LBZ,crew cab, long bed. Currently has 178,000 and I don't plan on ever getting anything newer than an 2006 ever again! I just found a 2004 Denali XL with 151,000 on it and am currently fixing issues with it so my wife can drive it as her daily. I can't stand new vehicles, if I were gifted or won one I would sell it for pennies on the dollar just to be rid of it! Absolute garbage imho. The newest rig I have ever driven was a 2020 gmc yukon that was a rental for a few weeks and I wanted to drive it off of a cliff multiple times!
Some Lange change warning beeping garbage, automatic braking (tell me how that is safe again) ,some flashing red light in the windshield that lights up if it thinks you are following to close and some entertainment screen BS that controls the radio, heating,AC etc! I effing hated that thing and couldn't wait to give it back!
20 years ago I wanted to buy a new truck SO bad and now I wouldn't touch em with a 10' pole!
 
A couple years ago I had some money saved up, and the thought crossed my mind that maybe I should look into a newer truck. I looked around a little , got serious sticker shock, and decided that my old Tacoma from the last century is still just fine. I've been driving it for nearly a quarter-century; it should be good for another quarter if I treat it right. It's just as well too, because that savings ended up all going away in medical bills and home repairs.

I dread ever having to get a newer vehicle. Occasionally I travel for work and have to drive a rental. They drive nice enough, but it would take me a while to get used to not having an actual key, and all the gizmos. I like technology well enough, but I don't care for technology just for technology's sake. I think the purpose of a lot of gadgets and tech is just "Look what we can do", rather than any real practical value.
 
I think the purpose of a lot of gadgets and tech is just "Look what we can do", rather than any real practical value.
^^^ Winner Winner chicken Dinner!

The '24 HR-v has something called "Hill Holder". See, I'll have Wifey dig into the 250 page book we keep in the glove box while we're driving to look for instruction on these fancy features. We were in the hills after a target shooting site clean up and had her look up this "Hill Holder" thing. Turns out that if your going down a steep hill you can engage hill-holder and not have to brake while slowly crawling down the mountain road. I tried it and it worked nicely! It only works at slow speeds, like 12mph max. There's a warning about this feature that says continued use can over heat the brakes. Before she read that, I thought we probably had a special feature in the transmission that with an extra low gear or something. But NO. It's a feature the rides the brakes so you don't have to. o_O
And something else wifey was reading out of the book yesterday as we drove up The Gorge. It seems we have something that we can engage that will brake and accelerate for us in stop and go traffic. It's another button you push when on "Cruise Control"? I'm not playing that game anytime soon.
My old Dad bought a new, in 1964, Ford Econoline Van. He put "Cruise Control" in that van! It was a box that hung under the dash in front of the driver that had a cable that went to the throttle linkage. When you hit desired speed you pull the nob on the box. That brought a toothed spring loaded pully holding cable connected to the throttle where it was, and an electro magnet held the two together, holding the throttle position where it was. It only worked to hold speed on level highway. But it did have the safety feature of disconnecting when brakes were applied!
 
^^^ Winner Winner chicken Dinner!

The '24 HR-v has something called "Hill Holder". See, I'll have Wifey dig into the 250 page book we keep in the glove box while we're driving to look for instruction on these fancy features. We were in the hills after a target shooting site clean up and had her look up this "Hill Holder" thing. Turns out that if your going down a steep hill you can engage hill-holder and not have to brake while slowly crawling down the mountain road. I tried it and it worked nicely! It only works at slow speeds, like 12mph max. There's a warning about this feature that says continued use can over heat the brakes. Before she read that, I thought we probably had a special feature in the transmission that with an extra low gear or something. But NO. It's a feature the rides the brakes so you don't have to. o_O
And something else wifey was reading out of the book yesterday as we drove up The Gorge. It seems we have something that we can engage that will brake and accelerate for us in stop and go traffic. It's another button you push when on "Cruise Control"? I'm not playing that game anytime soon.
My old Dad bought a new, in 1964, Ford Econoline Van. He put "Cruise Control" in that van! It was a box that hung under the dash in front of the driver that had a cable that went to the throttle linkage. When you hit desired speed you pull the nob on the box. That brought a toothed spring loaded pully holding cable connected to the throttle where it was, and an electro magnet held the two together, holding the throttle position where it was. It only worked to hold speed on level highway. But it did have the safety feature of disconnecting when brakes were applied!
I CAN'T EFFING STAND the hill descent control system in my F350. It completely takes over the truck and takes FOREVER to disengage itself so I can star accelerating again. When going down steep grades pulling trailers, I prefer to downshift to 3rd and lockout the top 3 gears preventing an upshift which gives me a completely brake-free, controlled decent down the mountains between here and MT. HDC completely effs that up and rides the brakes, not giving you the ability to accelerate again when at the bottom until it decides to let go. Hate it. Even worse you can't turn it off, it just takes over. I've learned when and how it engages, so I can avoid it most of the time.

Now, in my Bronco, it has a hill hold feature for assistance in getting moving win on an incline. It's a manual tranny and that feature has come in handy on several occasions, especially off road.
 
^^^ Winner Winner chicken Dinner!

The '24 HR-v has something called "Hill Holder". See, I'll have Wifey dig into the 250 page book we keep in the glove box while we're driving to look for instruction on these fancy features. We were in the hills after a target shooting site clean up and had her look up this "Hill Holder" thing. Turns out that if your going down a steep hill you can engage hill-holder and not have to brake while slowly crawling down the mountain road. I tried it and it worked nicely! It only works at slow speeds, like 12mph max. There's a warning about this feature that says continued use can over heat the brakes. Before she read that, I thought we probably had a special feature in the transmission that with an extra low gear or something. But NO. It's a feature the rides the brakes so you don't have to.
My 95 Nissan 4x4 D21 will do that as well. Just put it in 4WD low and 1st gear, or 2nd if you don't want to go 3mph. (5 speed manual).
 
I CAN'T EFFING STAND the hill descent control system in my F350. It completely takes over the truck and takes FOREVER to disengage itself so I can star accelerating again. When going down steep grades pulling trailers, I prefer to downshift to 3rd and lockout the top 3 gears preventing an upshift which gives me a completely brake-free, controlled decent down the mountains between here and MT. HDC completely effs that up and rides the brakes, not giving you the ability to accelerate again when at the bottom until it decides to let go. Hate it. Even worse you can't turn it off, it just takes over. I've learned when and how it engages, so I can avoid it most of the time.

Now, in my Bronco, it has a hill hold feature for assistance in getting moving win on an incline. It's a manual tranny and that feature has come in handy on several occasions, especially off road.
A "hill holder" feature that just rides the brakes instead of using compression braking seems not only stupid to me, but also dangerous. Have these people never heard of "brake fade"? Having an automated system overheat your brakes with no feedback to the driver seems like a good way to get yourself into a lot more trouble a lot faster than you would otherwise expect from doing it manually. At least if you are doing it manually you can feel the brakes getting worse and take action to mitigate the problem.
 
I CAN'T EFFING STAND the hill descent control system in my F350. It completely takes over the truck and takes FOREVER to disengage itself so I can star accelerating again. When going down steep grades pulling trailers, I prefer to downshift to 3rd and lockout the top 3 gears preventing an upshift which gives me a completely brake-free, controlled decent down the mountains between here and MT. HDC completely effs that up and rides the brakes, not giving you the ability to accelerate again when at the bottom until it decides to let go. Hate it. Even worse you can't turn it off, it just takes over. I've learned when and how it engages, so I can avoid it most of the time.

Now, in my Bronco, it has a hill hold feature for assistance in getting moving win on an incline. It's a manual tranny and that feature has come in handy on several occasions, especially off road.
I find it annoying, something I CAN'T over ride, letting off the throttle, going down a hill and the transmission will downshift on it's own! I hear the engine revving, look down, and RPMs are at 3500-3700! It won't upshift until I hit the throttle again. I figure this is the stupidity of a CV tranny? I also get over revving when under heavy acceleration. Such as putting hammer DOWN on freeway on-ramp, and it revs way up with acceleration not matching revs.
 
A "hill holder" feature that just rides the brakes instead of using compression braking seems not only stupid to me, but also dangerous. Have these people never heard of "brake fade"? Having an automated system overheat your brakes with no feedback to the driver seems like a good way to get yourself into a lot more trouble a lot faster than you would otherwise expect from doing it manually. At least if you are doing it manually you can feel the brakes getting worse and take action to mitigate the problem.
It just grabs the rear brakes for a brief second and lets go as soon as I'm moving forward. It's not that horrid. It's certainly not riding them, it's just holding it from rolling backwards when the clutch is disengaged.
 

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