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New bill introduced in OR.- You aren't going to believe this one

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Mr.B, Feb 9, 2011.

  1. Mr.B

    Mr.B Hippyville Active Member

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  2. VW_Factor

    VW_Factor Woodburn Oregon Active Member

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    Who do we contact in our area to show opposition?
     
  3. C&H

    C&H SW Portland Member

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    OMGWTFBBQ!11
    Text of the summary below:

    76th OREGON LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY--2011 Regular Session

    Senate Bill 659

    Sponsored by COMMITTEE ON GENERAL GOVERNMENT, CONSUMER AND SMALL BUSINESS PROTECTION

    SUMMARY
    The following summary is not prepared by the sponsors of the measure and is not a part of the body thereof subject to consideration by the Legislative Assembly. It is an editor’s brief statement of the essential features of the measure as introduced.

    Prohibits manufacturing, selling or rebuilding firearm without chamber load indicator.

    Prohibits manufacturing, selling or rebuilding semiautomatic pistol without magazine disconnect mechanism.

    Prohibits removing or disabling chamber load indicator or magazine disconnect mechanism.

    Punishes violation by maximum of one year’s imprisonment, $6,250 fine, or both.

    Punishes sub-sequent violations by maximum of five years’ imprisonment, $125,000 fine, or both.

    Becomes operative January 1, 2013.

    A BILL FOR AN ACT
    Relating to firearm safety devices.
    Be It Enacted by the People of the State of Oregon:
    SECTION 1.
    (1) It is unlawful for any person to manufacture or sell:
    (a) A firearm, unless the firearm is equipped with a chamber load indicator.
    (b) A semiautomatic pistol, unless the semiautomatic pistol is equipped with a magazine
    disconnect mechanism.

    (2) It is unlawful for any person to rebuild:
    (a) A firearm, unless the firearm is rebuilt with a chamber load indicator.
    (b) A semiautomatic pistol, unless the semiautomatic pistol is rebuilt with a magazine
    disconnect mechanism.

    (3) It is unlawful for any person to:
    (a) Remove a chamber load indicator from a firearm or otherwise render the indicator
    inoperable.
    (b) Remove a magazine disconnect mechanism from a semiautomatic pistol or otherwise
    render the mechanism inoperable.

    (4) A chamber load indicator described in this section must:
    (a) Be readily visible;
    (b) Contain incorporated or adjacent explanatory text or graphics; and
    (c) Provide notice to a reasonable person, without reference to any resource other than
    the firearm itself, whether a cartridge is in the firing chamber.

    (5)
    (a) Any person who violates this section commits a Class A misdemeanor.
    (b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this subsection, any person who violates this section
    commits a Class C felony, if the person has a previous conviction for violating this section.
    (6) As used in this section:
    (a) “Chamber load indicator” means a device that plainly indicates that a cartridge is in
    the firing chamber of a firearm.
    (b) “Firearm” has the meaning given that term in ORS 166.210, except that it does not
    include a revolver.
    (c) “Magazine disconnect mechanism” means a mechanism that prevents a semiauto-
    matic pistol that has a detachable magazine from operating to strike the primer of ammu-
    nition in the firing chamber when a detachable magazine is not inserted in the
    semiautomatic pistol.
    (d) “Semiautomatic pistol” means a pistol, the operating mode of which uses the energy
    of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to extract a fired cartridge and chamber a fresh car-
    tridge with each single pull of the trigger.

    SECTION 2.
    (1) Section 1 of this 2011 Act becomes operative on January 1, 2013.
    (2) Section 1 of this 2011 Act applies to firearms manufactured, sold or rebuilt on or after
    January 1, 2013.
     
  4. salmonriverjohn

    salmonriverjohn N.W Oregon coast, Gods country Well-Known Member

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    THANK YOU for the heads up! That pretty much pertains to, and covers all of us.
     
  5. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Who is the moron responsible for crafting this finely polished pile of excrement? I see it's presented by a committee. "Senate Bill 659Sponsored by COMMITTEE ON GENERAL GOVERNMENT, CONSUMER AND SMALL BUSINESS PROTECTION" but some one person--somewhere---must be the author.

    Thought I was getting a faint whiff of Ginny Burdick--but I can't find any direct connection.
     
  6. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    crazy how little these dopes actually know about the things they're trying to make into LAWS. obviously it would be basically impossible to comply with this law... i have to wonder if they know that, and are trying to sneak in a proxy ban on transfers, or if they seriously just have no clue. either way, it'll never fly.
     
  7. T-Steve

    T-Steve Beaverton, OR New Member

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    Sponsor of this senate bill 659, the Senate Committee on General Government, Consumer and Small Business Protection

    Chair
    Sen. Chip Shields

    Vice-chair
    Sen. Larry George

    Members
    Sen. Suzanne Bonamici
    Sen. Brian Boquist
    Sen. Rod Monroe

    Sounds like you ought to contact your state senator and ask him to oppose SB 659. I'm writing a letter to my senator, Mark Hass.
     
  8. Buddhalux

    Buddhalux Hillsboro, Oregon Active Member

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    Has anyone generated a generic email and email listings for this yet?
     
  9. mr11b

    mr11b Portland, OR Member

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    I spoke with a representative of Sen. Larry George's office this morning. He was very clear that they don't feel this bill has any backing and that Sen. Larry George does NOT support this bill. Sen. Larry George's office seemed to clearly understand the effects this bill could have on Oregon's gunsmiths, especially in the current state of Oregon's economy. They were very helpful and I would encourage anyone with questions or concerns to contact his office, the number is 503-986-1713.
     
  10. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Good. Glad to hear that the vice-chair of the committee thinks the bill is junk. Still brings up the question---where did it come from? Someone had to write it, and have enough horsepower to push it through committee and on to the Senate Presidents desk. Who is the author? Someone somewhere thinks this bill is a good idea. I would like to know who that person is. I want to volunteer to work for his/her opponent in the next election.
     
  11. Mr.B

    Mr.B Hippyville Active Member

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    I just received a reply from OFF. I looked around their website and didn't see anything about this bill, so I sent them an email. Here is a copy of it, along with the reply. It also names the person that thought this would be a good idea.



    Hello.
    >
    > First of all, thank you for all of your hard work helping to preserve freedom.
    > I am contacting you regarding a disturbing bill I saw posted on a firearm forum. I thought I'd better forward it to you so you can alert other OFF members. Here is a link to the article I found regarding sb 0659. I'm sure you agree, this is beyond disturbing and would make many guns illegal. I'm confident you will make every effort to stop this ridiculous piece of legislation.
    >
    >
    > Sincerely,
    >
    > Robert


    Robert,

    We posted this on our website a few days ago. It’s absurd. And we found out who is behind it. Senator Bonamici. Paranoid gun hater. This thing has almost no chance even if it passes the senate, which it won’t because we’ll crush them. But rest assured, we’re watching it.

    Kevin
     
  12. VW_Factor

    VW_Factor Woodburn Oregon Active Member

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    Is it time to flood someone's email box?
     
  13. no time

    no time Roseburg area Active Member

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    I'm not seeing the part that states this law would only pertain to gunsmiths. It looks to me like it's saying it would be illegal to sell a firearm without a loaded chamber indicator...period.

    Am I missing something? It wouldn't be the first time...
     
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    coop44 Tacoma ,WA Well-Known Member

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    Has Mr. Bonamici been drug tested lately? He must be smoking crack.
     
  15. VW_Factor

    VW_Factor Woodburn Oregon Active Member

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    Senator Bonamici is a woman.
     
  16. zeppelin

    zeppelin Benton County WA Active Member

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    Sure is hard to see what this will accomplish (or how it will be enforced) since the main prohibitive section (section 1) only applies to guns manufactured or modified after 1/1/2013. So virtually every gun out there up until that time is exempt. This means every time someone wants to check if the law is being violated they will have to run down when the gun was manufactured. Bet the gun manufactures are going to refuse since this puts a significant (un-funded) burden on them to help out the government. Might not even be constitutional because of this. Not to mention the fact that any supposed safety benefit of this law is negated by the fact that all the guns out there that don't meet this law will still be legally out there. Talk about a waste of time.
     
  17. nubus

    nubus Guest

    Wow, you have got to be kidding me.
    Hopefully truth and common sense will prevail here.
     
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    mr11b Portland, OR Member

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    mpmax Woodburn Active Member

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    This bill looks like it was cut and pasted off of a firearms "safety" website....Brady comes to mind. Apparently we have a State Senator who will pass along this enlightened legislation to the unwashed masses...er, us.
     
  20. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    I contacted Senator Telfer's (R-Bend) office last night. Her chief of staff (her daughter I believe) responded this morning with a vague email. I was a bit disappointed in the response, as all it takes is for evil to flourish is for good people to do nothing. In this case, she said that she would alert the Senator if the bill made it to a full vote. I hope there is a larger outrage over this or at least it doesn't make it to a full vote, otherwise there may be enough apathy for it to pass...