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Once this gets to places like AZ and TX, it's game over for us. It's attrition and we're losing

WE are losing if you look at ALL of the gun news on a daily basis and not only from the L or R sides of the news.

IT will happen in AZ. I am positive that it will happen there due to various reasons but my hands are too sore to type now. Space cadet Kelly in the General Section... one thread there - mixed into it. I do not know which one right now.

Texas is changing... not sure there. But I think that it will change!

Man, don't get me started on MT now... sigh. Other threads of mine and with the M. City Council, the MC Judge, the Ds, the MONTANA REPUBLICAN AG - FOX WHO DID NOT FOLLOW UP BUT ONE TIME AND THEN BLEW IT, he wrote a letter one time to the city fathers, ha ha, the D Gov Bullock-MT and his total REVERSAL ON GUN ISSUES after he got elected and he is RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT most likely. He has been all over the country!!! National and local news.

THE REPUBLICAN MT AG - FOX WHO DID NOTHING for the city and did not follow up is RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR! LOL

Now, he says that the Missoula City deal may go to the Supreme Court! AND NO MORE INFO FROM HIM ABOUT IT AT ALL. PLUS HIS OFFICE WILL NOT LET YOU LEAVE A MESSAGE VIA THE TELEPHONE AT ALL. IT MUST BE IN A MAIL OR EMAIL. BEEN THERE - DONE THAT.

I PERSONALLY THINK THAT MANY Rs and Ds in all states are about as worthless as !s on a boar!

So we got UBC FOR PRIVATE GUN SALES in the city and, THEN, they all of a sudden went on about some parks and trails about CCW and OC too. I do NOT have the list now. SO UBC FOR ALL PRIVATE GUN SALES WITHIN MISSOULA CITY LIMITS - IT PASSED WITH NO ELECTION. JUST THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED AND A MC JUDGE SAID IT WAS LEGAL FOR THEM TO DO IT. UBC! IT IS AGAINST THE MT CONSTITUTION.

The BLOOMBERG MONEY and various groups are ALL OVER the state and other cities, small towns, are lapping it up. Plus the mayors are in some of Bloomberg groups. MAIG is the name?

THESE RICH ANTI GUN PEOPLE ARE FLOODING THIS COUNTRY WITH THEIR MONEY AND THEIR INFLUENCE.

THE NRA MAN CAME HERE ONE TIME TO ONE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. HE WAS FROM CA. WE GOT NO HELP - PERIOD. I GOT NO HELP OR ANSWERS FROM THE NRA HQ - FACT.

I TOLD PEOPLE WHAT WAS GOING ON AND SOME PEOPLE DID NOT EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE FIRST ROUND OF GARBAGE WORSE OFF THE REST OF IT. FACT. I SENT SOME STUFF TO SOME SO CALLED FAMOUS GUN BLOGS IN PRIVATE EMAILS. PLUS I TALKED TO OUR RANGE PEOPLE AND THEY SPREAD THE WORD.

THE HEAD MAN OF ANOTHER MT GROUP DID NOT SHOW UP TO ANY CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THE CITY COUNCIL WAS HORRIBLE TO THE PRO GUN FOLKS - FACT. SO RUDE. YOU KNOW THE ONES WHO CLAIM TO BE SO TOLERANT AND ARE THE MOST INTOLERANT AND RUDE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE KNOWN IN MY 68 YEARS ON EARTH!

THE MOMMY GROUPS AND OTHERS FROM BLOOMBERG WERE THERE, THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS - ANTI GUN ONES, OTHER FOLKS WHO HAD NO CLUE WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT BUT TALKED LIKE THEY WERE READING FROM A SCRIPT, THE DISCUSSIONS WENT TO SAFETY MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK AND WHEN MOST PEOPLE WERE WORKING - NO KIDDING AND OTHER GARBAGE WENT ON TOO.

YEAH, I THINK THAT THE D GOVERNOR WILL DO SOMETHING BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE AND IF HE DOES NOT... I BET HE DOES IF HE RUNS FOR PRESIDENT IN 2020.

THE DEMS ARE MOTIVATED AND THEY HAVE THE MONEY. THEY SAY ONE THING AND IT IS THE SAME SCRIPT - THEY ALL AGREE.

IT CAN BE FOUND ONLINE IF NEEDED - ALL OF IT INCLUDING OUR MT GOV'S TALKING POINTS IN NATIONAL AND LOCAL NEWS.

Cate
 
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I went back and forth with my pops on this bill.

Seems like there was lots of opposition for the bill, but not enough opposition to vote republicans into office during the last cycle.

The state voted itself blue.

Not shocking this stuff follows.

Voting has consequences.

We will see it soon here as well.

Oregon voted further blue than ever before.
 
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If you care about freedom, if you view guns as tools of survival rather than TOYS, stop talking about moving to "free states" or waiting for daddy Trump to save us.

We are being out talked, out manuvered, out voted, out bred, and out imported by the socialist left/anti gunners.

Buy serious common useful guns, (ar15, glocks, .308s etc) buy lots of magazines, spares parts, craploads of ammo, and lots of training. Then pray we get a miracle, and never have to use them.
 
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The thing that ticks me off is that MT people or other people in their OWN states do not believe what IS REALLY GOING ON - TAKING PLACE because all they pay attention to is the R or the L news. They do not follow it all and when you tell them, give them links, more details and so forth... you might as well HOWL AT THE MOON as much good as it will do.

I have been following politics since I was 12 years old. Fact!

I have been following GUN news before I started to buy my own guns but from the late 90's and on... when I got online... I could READ more news from ALL SOURCES even if the news may or may not have been true 100%. Local, state, USA and worldwide.

YOU could follow it from Congressional Meetings, city, county and state meetings. Bla and bla.

A lot of people did NOT know what was going on back east worse off here when it came to ALL issues but the gun folks who claimed to be for the RKBA were pretty dense in some issues. NO offense.

Plus they had people complain to one another about what they chose to buy or shoot with their own dang money. I mean who gives a rat's butt there if you ALL SUPPORT THE RKBA ISSUE?!

I read many gun forums, not as many in the past, and I WILL TELL YOU THIS... when I see what some people write what they think is a great idea in SUPER GUN CONTROL AND I MEAN MORE THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE... I really wonder what will happen to NORMAL GUN FOLKS, not 'hard core' as I have been called, in this year alone worse off in 3 years.

I can't post what I have seen, not proper or right, but some of these so called GUN FOLKS are not just their own worst enemies but they sound like a BLOOMBERG TALKING HEAD. And one guy goes on about - well - I better shut up now.

Yours in liberty,

Old Lady Cate
 
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If you care about freedom, if you view guns as tools of survival rather than TOYS, stop talking about moving to "free states" or waiting for daddy Trump to save us.

We are being out talked, out manuvered, out voted, out bred, and out imported by the socialist left/anti gunners.

Buy serious common useful guns, (ar15, glocks, .308s etc) buy lots of magazines, spares parts, craploads of ammo, and lots of training. Then pray we get a miracle, and never have to use them.
I do not disagree, however I desire to be left alone and to enjoy my life with minimal government intrusion. (Oregon is not the place for me) It may come to the point where we can come together and take a stand against the tyranny someday?
 

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I haven't read all the faults of the bill, but I don't get what's wrong with background checks for buying a gun. I think that's a good idea.
 
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How is the seller (retail or private) to know the buyer isn't a felon (or the other disqualifiers) without running them through some sort of check system?
This is assuming that ALL people buying and selling are abiding by the law - and between the majority who probably are unaware of the law and those who are but may not be complying with it I suspect felons haven't been inhibited much at all in getting guns.
 
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