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Need technique advise on target shooting.

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by Phillyfan, Jun 12, 2011.

  1. Phillyfan

    Phillyfan Oregon City, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Ok, so I am a pretty good shot, but want to take it to the next level. When I shoot at distances of greater than 25 feet I can't keep the front sight and the target in focus at the same time. It's frustrating. I have my sight perfectly in line, but the target is totally blurred out. On the other hand I see the target clearly, but not the sights.

    Do you guys just learn to keep the sights in perfect alignment and focus on the target, or what? Really want to get better is why I am asking.
     
  2. Nutty4Guns

    Nutty4Guns Portland ADHD Superstar

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    This might sound sarcastic, but it's not intended to be. Maybe you should see an eye doctor? Are you shooting indoors or out? Sometimes my eyes will bug out on me around 50 feet indoors, but I think it is a lighting problem.
     
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    coupeowner SW Portland Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  4. Phillyfan

    Phillyfan Oregon City, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    No offense taken at all. I have 20/15 vision and I am shooting indoors.
     
  5. Phillyfan

    Phillyfan Oregon City, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    It's just that the target I was shooting at was two inches across, and at that distance I couldn't even see it if I focused on the sites. And if I focused on the sites, I couldn't see the target. So how do those guys on the gun shows do it?
     
  6. Phillyfan

    Phillyfan Oregon City, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Do I need to work on keeping both eyes open when I shoot maybe?
     
  7. rob240p

    rob240p Vancouver Member

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    ^ That's pretty important for me at least!
     
  8. dude young

    dude young SE PDX Active Member

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    Yes. When you can acquire both the sights and the target your accuracy will improve by an order of magnitude. Why are you closing one eye when you shoot? Is it perhaps that you are forcing yourself to use your weak eye?
     
  9. jordanvraptor

    jordanvraptor Oregon City, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Have you considered a laser? I didn't think much of them at first but am now a proponent of them. They allow you to focus on the target at all times. It is also a great training tool in that it shows you how much your gun is moving. I have lasergrips on my defense handguns and a light laser combo on my shotgun. It takes a while to get used to, but my eyes are getting old along with the rest of me and I'm having the same issue you are. Same reason I use an Aimpoint instead of iron sights on the M4... If lasers aren't your thing stick to the front sight-press rule. A cheap way to try out a laser is tape/mount a cheap keychain laser onto your pistol and do some dry fire drills to get used to the idea of looking at the target and adjusting your grip or stance to aim the laser instead of aligning sights. I am not paid by Crimson Trace although I wish I was.... :)

    A quick vid from Michael Bane who does get paid by....
    http://www.youtube.com/user/LaserAlpha#p/a/u/2/Tlnp487BY_0
     
  10. bruzer

    bruzer Grants Pass, OR Well-Known Member

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    I am not an instructor but I have had some shooting instruction. Your focus is always on the front sight. Rear site and target will be blurry. You want a clear front sight, properly aligned with the rear sight on a blurry target. As you squeeze the trigger you will know exactly where you shot because you will know exactly where that clear front sight was when the gun goes bang.
    I cannot comment on keeping both eyes open because I have had no instruction on that. I have worn an eye patch to keep my eyes from straining. Good luck,
    Mike
     
  11. ogre

    ogre Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Your vision is much better then my own Phillfan. I suggest that you experiment with using a set of shooting glasses and either a store-bought, or a home-made diopter on them. A correctly sized and positioned diopter will sharpen both the sights and the target.
     
  12. Phillyfan

    Phillyfan Oregon City, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    What does something like that cost? I don't even know what a diopter is.
     
  13. ogre

    ogre Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Several different companies make them. Experiment for yourself by attaching a bit of electricians tape to your shooting glasses with a tiny hole in it. Or you can try

    VIA for AR-15/A2 for example.
     
  14. kenjo

    kenjo Washougal Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    You might consider attending a Project Appleseed (Project Appleseed Home) weekend for some excellent marksmanship training. You may find the training to be very helpful. It's $70 for a weekend of excellent, basic rifle marksmanship training with some Revolutionary War history mixed in as a way of reminding us of our heritage. Just a suggestion. As a previous poster pointed out, your objective is to focus on the front sight. It is impossible for your eye to focus on more than one object at the same time.
     
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    olydemon Olympia Active Member

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    olydemon Olympia Active Member

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    Man that guy is good. I so want to go shoot my 1911 now!
     
  17. Browncoat

    Browncoat Clackamas, Or. Member

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    Phillyfan,
    There is a cure for your problem, but it is going to take some work. Ogre has the right idea. First you need to start shooting with both eyes open. Next get a stick-on magnifier (Stick On Lenses Optx 20/20 Reading Lens Safety Bifocals Magnifying Sunglasses) and use it on the dominant vision side of your shooting glasses. This will give you clear focus on the front sight as well as the target. It will take a while to get used to but it does work.
     
  18. Phillyfan

    Phillyfan Oregon City, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Awesome, thanks guys. I think I will try to start shooting with both eyes open, and once I get used to that maybe trying a diopter.