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Need opinions on Speer brass

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by darkminstrel, Apr 15, 2011.

  1. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    So I've been shooting this lot of Speer 180gr .40S&W that we picked up a few years ago. So far my S&W 4013 has broken two extractors on those things and I'm balking at reloading using those cases if they are the source of the problem. Has anyone used speer factory range brass and what has your experience been?
     
  2. kenjo

    kenjo Washougal Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I've shot a lot of reloaded Speer brass (40 S&W) and never broken an extractor on it. But then, I shoot Glocks. I do not pick up "range brass" in 40 S&W because I don't know what it was loaded to, or how often it was fired before it was left on the range.
     
  3. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Are you saying the extractor in your pistol is not strong enough to hold up to shooting a Brass cartridge? Because the brass is what to hard? I think I would be looking at the heat treatment on the extractor before the brass.
     
  4. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    The Speer loads were 100% factory and opened by me prior to shooting. The first broken extractor was the original, the second was a direct factory replacement. Can't say for certain it's a pistol problem because my wife's 4013 - which is one serial number higher than mine - has run 3x as many through it of this ammo lot and has had no issues.

    Currently the weapon is taken down completely and I'm replacing every spring and wearing part that I can to see if just plain old worn out parts are the culprit.
     
  5. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    Speer is an ATK owned company (at least last I checked), so all the brass is made at the same factory as all the CCI ammunition. (ever notice how CCI seems to load a lot of speer bullets? Same with federal, also owned by ATK).
     
  6. Browning55

    Browning55 Seattle-Everett Area Active Member

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    I've used every kind of brass out there including Speer. No problems. All are made to the same SAAMI standards. I think you're idea of changing all the springs is a good one.
     
  7. deadshot2

    deadshot2 NW Quadrant WA State Well-Known Member

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    I pick up all the brass you leave behind. Inspection will tell you what goes into the salvage bucket and what can be reloaded. As for the "40 S&W Bulge" Lee makes a nice die that takes this out real simply. It's also inexpensive.
     
  8. XSubSailor

    XSubSailor SW WA Active Member

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    I reload LOTS of Speer brass and it's never given me any problems...I would suspect an issue with the extractors. I've had extractors tear the rim off a few cases before, but can't imagine an extractor failing because the the brass???

    BTW-I use the Redding Carbide GR-X die to "de-Glock" my .40 brass...