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Need Makarov Smithing Help Please

Discussion in 'Maintenance & Gunsmithing' started by GOG, Feb 23, 2014.

  1. GOG

    GOG State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    My neighbor inherited his Dad's Baikal Makarov and apparently if fired fine for a mag or two and then jammed. I offered to look at it and this is what I found. The slide is jammed and the safety is locked in a backwards position. There's a live round rattling around in there, but that doesn't matter too much because the firing pin has fallen out.

    From what I can see, it would seem that the safety needs to be manipulated into the correct position in order to free the slide.
    I taped the safety to keep from scratching it and tried to rotate it forward with a pliers. That didn't work as it's locked up solid.

    The slide either isn't back far enough to lift the rear up, forward and off or it's just jammed. Either way, it's not going anywhere.

    That's as far as I can get. So I'm asking you experts here for help.

    I've got a few pics here to help illustrate the problem.

    Thanks in advance.

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  2. the4thshake

    the4thshake Portland Active Member

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  3. GOG

    GOG State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Thank you. I'll see if I can get the sear spring out. Unfortunately it also seems locked up tight, but I'll give it a try.
     
  4. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I'm just tagging this post, just to see how this all plays out.
    Numrich Gun Parts has a Makarov schematic that might give a clearer image.
    Good Luck.
     
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  5. GOG

    GOG State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Thanks.

    I removed the sear spring and that freed the slide up just a tiniest bit. That loosened the hammer somewhat. The decocker is still pretty much jammed. It's partly out of the slide, but stuck so tight that I can't remove it. I tapped it and can get it to move upright to about a 60 degree angle or I can tap it down to an almost horizontal position. However I can't lever it out or push it in in either position. I think that if I could get it to seat properly I'd be home free.

    I'm walking away from it for tonight for my peace of mind.
     
  6. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I think that the only option left is to grab a hard rubber mallet, and give the back of the slide a really good whack, and try to force it back to battery.
    Whatever failed internally will more then likely need to be replaced, but there is also that live loose round in there too consider.
    Perhaps you could soak the slide in some penetrating oil to make the round inert before you choose to play whack-a-mole.
     
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  7. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Is the live round still up in the chamber? The safety is just jammed, give it a good twist and it will come out. IVe seen the slides jam like this from wear... Tap it with a rubber mallet, you won't hurt it!
     
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    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Wrap black electrical tape around a pair of channel lock pliers and twist and pull to get that safety free...
     
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  9. GOG

    GOG State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    My neighbor came over and I gave him a report on my progress. My suggestion is to take it to a smith at this point. I'm afraid to keep wrenching and banging on the decocker. It was his father's gun and he just passed a few months ago. I just don't want to take a chance on messing up the inner part of the slide. If it was mine, I'd be using a single jack right about now. ;)

    I'll take it to a smith sometime this week.
     
  10. Tigershark

    Tigershark Stanwood Member

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    I'm in Stanwood WA or I would offer to do it for you.
    You need to take as much tension off as you can. If you can release the hammer spring and gently disassemble it with out forcing anything, You should be OK. The hard part is re-assembling it. The CZ-82 is bad but I think the Makarov will be a little easier. Get some round tooth picks for slave pins.
    If you can find a local smith that has experience in soviet block pistols, all the better. They can be very complicated.
     
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