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Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by kwad up, Sep 21, 2013.

  1. kwad up

    kwad up Washington New Member

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    Im from Washington state and I'm 18 and about to purchase a handgun from a private party. I no I can only have the gun in my home place of business or my property. But as far as after I buy it, can I legally transport and have it in the can with me? Like if I get pulled over could I get in trouble? Can it be in the glove box please help thanks!
     
  2. PX4WA

    PX4WA Tacoma, WA Active Member

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    It must be transported locked and unloaded in the trunk or in a location not easily accessible otherwise you are carrying concealed without a permit.

    You cannot have it on your person in the vehicle. I may be wrong on this part. It's arguable that an unloaded gun in the gloves box may be ok. But you would be explaining that to the judge at your hearing
     
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  3. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    What ^^^^ he said.
     
  4. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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  5. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    .. They would need probable cause to search your vehicle.. Ex: glove box.
    Tell them to fly a kite and that you do not consent to a search. Perhaps magazine out of the firearm.. However if seconds truly do could.. Having and unloaded firearm is a moot point.

    Do I advise trying to break the law?
    No.
    However, its your life and you choose how best to defend it.
    I would just have a shotgun in the vehicle.. But then again Im not all too familiar with Washington law.

    Mace/bear spray is a terrific option.
    Be careful toting around that pistol until you're 21.. Leos tend to not fully comprehend the current laws and interpret them how they see fit.
     
  6. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    Loaded long guns in the car are not legal in Oregon or Washington CPL or not.
     
  7. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    That is NOT what the law says, you might read it again. What it says is, "Unless an exception under RCW 9.41.042, 9.41.050, or 9.41.060 applies", RCW 9.41.240: Possession of pistol by person from eighteen to twenty-one. so it might be worth your effort to read those exemptions along with the rest of the RCW's as linked already.

    There are NO "storage for transportation" in WA. The main rule is it has to be unloaded and that is it. There are some exemptions where it can even be loaded, see above with the exemptions.

    The "safest" way for you to transport it is simply have it unloaded.
     
  8. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Could you please show me ANY law in WA that requires that? I have NEVER seen one.

    He can have it on his person in the vehicle IF he falls under one of the exemptions. Since the only law in WA is that the gun needs to be unloaded (if not fitting one of the exemptions) then the glovebox is just fine.
     
  9. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Might check your OR facts again. I have not seen an ORS that makes it illegal.
     
  10. coop44

    coop44 Tacoma ,WA Well-Known Member

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    the best advice I can give is not to test the limits of the law, go beyond what the law requires. Don't use a "what can I get away with" mentality, try a "without a doubt this is legal" approach.

    This is probably not the best place to seek legal advice, to the best of my knowledge no one on this forum is a practicing lawyer in the state of Washington or Oregon.
     
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  11. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    I guess I have to throw in with you on this. While I would not be the one to bet my guns or my gun rights to test the theory, I don't see any specific prohibition of loaded long guns in a vehicle in Oregon.
     
  12. PX4WA

    PX4WA Tacoma, WA Active Member

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    Not listed but for an 18 year old I wouldn't risk an over zealous cop making him explain it to a judge...

    Honestly I don't keep up with that part of the law since I have a cpl...
     
  13. fredball

    fredball Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Washington state law says you need to be 21 years old to purchase a hand gun
    Welcome aboard:thumbup:
     
  14. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Where does it say that? I sure can't find it. :huh: Which RCW was it?
     
  15. MarkAd

    MarkAd Port Orchard Well-Known Member

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    Im from Washington state and I'm 18 and about to purchase a handgun from a private party. I know I can only hav the gun in my home place of business or my property.RCW 9.41.050(1)a Except in the person's place of abode or fixed place of business, a person shall not carry a pistol concealed on his or her person without a license to carry a concealed pistol.
    I assume you mean concelled. If so you are correct.

    But as far as after I buy it, can I legally transport and have it in the can with me? Like if I get pulled over could I get in trouble? Can it be in the glove box please help thanks![/QUOTE]
    9.41.050 (3)(a) A person at least eighteen years of age who is in possession of an unloaded pistol shall not leave the unloaded pistol in a vehicle unless the unloaded pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

    This implies you can carry the gun awhere in the vehicle unloaded. I have personally had many unloaded guns in the car sitting on the seat and never been asked about them by LEO's.

    Now lets touch on the exceptions to these rules.

    RCW 9.41.060 Exceptions to restrictions on carrying firearms.

    The provisions of RCW 9.41.050 shall not apply to:
    (6) Regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for the purpose of target shooting, when those members are at or are going to or from their places of target practice;

    (7) Regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for the purpose of modern and antique firearm collecting, when those members are at or are going to or from their collector's gun shows and exhibits;

    (8) Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;

    (9) Any person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a closed opaque case or secure wrapper; or...


    Another RCW to know is 9.41.240 Possession of pistol by person from eighteen to twenty-one.
    Unless an exception under RCW 9.41.042, 9.41.050, or 9.41.060 applies, a person at least eighteen years of age, but less than twenty-one years of age, may possess a pistol only:

    (1) In the person's place of abode;

    (2) At the person's fixed place of business; or

    (3) On real property under his or her control (Cars are real property)
     
  16. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    Can you post the Oregon law that makes it illegal? Because it isn't.
     
  17. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    You can have it in the car, provided it's legal for transport (unloaded and locked away), I think you can also take it into the can with you, however I would highly recommend making sure it's your own can on your own property. For some reason armed people (mostly police) seem to think sitting on the can is an ideal time to play with a loaded firearm and the bullet holes present in police bathrooms is testament to this.

    So, yes, you can have it in your can, however I wouldn't recommend playing with it, as you could go blind. :)
     
  18. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    Is there no end to my shame? How long must I wear this cloak of humility? Did I not concede only a few posts back in this thread?
     
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  19. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    What WA law says this? IT does not EXIST. The ONLY law about transport in WA is that the gun HAS to be unloaded unless your meet an exemption.