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ND/AD from a Utah schoolteacher

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by elsie, Sep 11, 2014.

  1. elsie

    elsie Way over there on the left Well-Known Member

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  2. decklin

    decklin WA Well-Known Member

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    Stupidity and negligence.
     
  3. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmm, Glockerized.....o_O
     
  4. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    I see a pattern here...
    She was carrying a concealed firearm at school
    her gun accidentally fired in a faculty bathroom on Thursday
    the bullet struck a toilet and caused it to esplode
    She was struck by fragments from a bullet and a porcelain toilet
    A similar incident occurred in 2009 in the bathroom of a Carl's Jr. restaurant in Centerville, Utah.
    A customer's concealed weapon accidentally fell out of a holster, hit the floor and fired, shattering the toilet.
     
  5. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    On Thursday
    Thursday, Sept 11
    Could it be a Terrorist incident?
     
  6. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    Another pattern!
    Tuesday, Sept 2
    ISU professor shoots self in foot
     
  7. Monica Cowles

    Monica Cowles Grays Harbor, Washington Member, NRA (Life) USCCA, ACLDN, SAF (Life) Staff Member Silver Supporter

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    She is human...just needs more training...;)
     
  8. bellarum

    bellarum beaverton Well-Known Member

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  9. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    And the Prof?
     
  10. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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  11. bellarum

    bellarum beaverton Well-Known Member

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    I searched "Utah teacher" and found nothing
     
  12. Monica Cowles

    Monica Cowles Grays Harbor, Washington Member, NRA (Life) USCCA, ACLDN, SAF (Life) Staff Member Silver Supporter

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    he needs to keep his hands out of his, um, pockets...:rolleyes:
     
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  13. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    Monica
    double-standard!:eek:
    Nice transparency!
     
  14. Monica Cowles

    Monica Cowles Grays Harbor, Washington Member, NRA (Life) USCCA, ACLDN, SAF (Life) Staff Member Silver Supporter

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    *Whoosh!* right over my head...o_O
     
  15. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    The brand of toilet was probably "Plebe" (American Standard).. she thought it was mocking her.
    true story

    the-more-you-know.jpg
     
  16. westy39

    westy39 Montana Member

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    Gosh, so when a person has a concealed weapon permit they just instantly become perfect???? Well as a Police Officer with over 22 years of experience I can say I am aware of a few A/D by Police Officers. I would wager there are about as many A/D by Officers as by people who have concealed weapon permits. None of us are perfect. I would rather have my kids attend a school where there is an armed person in the school than a so called no gun zone school. Oh that's right there are armed employees at my kids school oops......... My bad.
     
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  17. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Now here's a real plebe at a school.. and he's an occifer a the law!



    But I hear you and agree.. professionals have/do ND's as often or more so, on a normalized basis, than regular citizens.
     
  18. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    Everybody thinks they are above a negligent discharge, till they have one.
     
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  19. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    I CC, and am an RSO. I don't believe in accidental discharges.
    Drop your gun on the floor and it fires? How did it come to hit the ground in a condition to fire?
    I hold myself accountable for what happens to/with my firearm at all times.
    When out-and-about, I up my situational awareness by several notches.
    I dropped an M-16 once in 1975, in boot camp.
    There's just no excuse. Unless, "the gun, it just went off!"
     
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  20. Hook686

    Hook686 Northern California Active Member

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    So true Monstermetal. I have been involved in three gun matches at my club and seen SWAT officers (more than one) have an AD/ND during a pistol shoot ... all were .45 acp pistols. I had a couple with my S&W 3913 9mm and these experiences are the main reason I went to revolvers and only carry the semiauto in an ankle holster on occasion as a 'NY reload'.