Native Oregonian, I've had enough. Moving to Utah... Good luck.

[PauletteRevere]

My family has been in Oregon many generations. We were part of building the state. Now we have witnessed the destruction from within by lefty locusts. Regardless of our political and Civic involvement, the deck is stacked against my family's concerns, which have always been farming, logging and ranching.
Good luck on.your search...I believe the left and California locust swarms have spit tobacky juice on everything they clamber onto. Defiling that which attracted them in the first place.
Oregon is toast.

 

[Idaho44]

Oregon used to be (in the 70s) quite conservative. I recalled a conversation with a black person who clearly stated that Portland was very anti-black. BUT Oregon did have a very liberal "pot" law that encouraged emigration from California in the 70s until it got changed in the 80s (more strict on the amount for personal use). You can't really blame the libs since the potential for change existed before they and their minions arrived. Oregon is going through a cultural shift as has every formally conservative area. It is more of an "age" thing than political. Yeah there are some young conservatives but they are outnumbered and becoming more outnumbered with time. The riots in Watts did not burn down PD stations but in today's world it is deemed OK as a form of protest! Keep voting positive for those education bonds, "it's for the children". The more you give, the more that will be taken! If you don't like "liberal" don''t support them and don't give in to them! As was pointed out "you can run, but you can't hide". Ask the Native Americans how that worked for them!

 

[03A3Sporter]

As was pointed out "you can run, but you can't hide". Ask the Native Americans how that worked for them!

I know this is a popular narrative among some conservatives in states that are blue, and its just not true . While yes you witnessed a shift in politics in the west to extreme socialism, other states absolutely shifted the other direction from more socialist and progressive to conservatism. Everyone in a state that flipped wants to think the same can happen to them.

I will say this you were right about some of your assumptions the more you feed the bears the more the bears will come back. Keep voting for more taxes, supporting urban growth boundaries , etc etc etc.


Here is the rub a lot of past republicans when they were in charge in Oregon supported very progressive agendas, you can't blame democrats for the all of the current situation and ignore the past decisions that enabled it. Really and truthfully the road to get where Oregon is today was pretty bi partisan


From what I have read about California they did much the same thing, past republicans made decisions and compromises which paved the way for the events today.

 

[flybynyt]

Heading to Scottsdale in a year. Can hardly wait!

 

[PauletteRevere]

I know this is a popular narrative among some conservatives in states that are blue, and its just not true . While yes you witnessed a shift in politics in the west to extreme socialism, other states absolutely shifted the other direction from more socialist and progressive to conservatism. Everyone in a state that flipped wants to think the same can happen to them.

I will say this you were right about some of your assumptions the more you feed the bears the more the bears will come back. Keep voting for more taxes, supporting urban growth boundaries , etc etc etc.


Here is the rub a lot of past republicans when they were in charge in Oregon supported very progressive agendas, you can blame democrats for the all of the current situation and ignore the past decisions that enabled it. Really and truthfully the road to get where Oregon is today was pretty bi partisan


From what I have read about California they did much the same thing, past republicans made decisions and compromises which paved the way for the events today.

Oregon used to be a business friendly state. That concept is gone. Government lifers have added to the destruction as well as University eggheads chiming in over the Spotted Owl debacle destroying the logging industry, attendant Businesses, communities, and livelihoods; as well as meddling in ranching and farming, pushing for wolfie huggers, et al. Not to mention letting our forests burn, stupidly.
The common sense, businessman's mentality is long gone in government. Many in government have not worked in the private sector (see:Wyden, Ron and Merkley, Jeff, among others) to the detriment of our state and good functioning businesses and tax bases. Our children have attended increasingly Lefty public schools and universities, (see, Reed College and U of Oregon), and have been indoctrinated to a fare thee well in leftist / progressive ideas. They see Oregon as a negative instead of a promise of hope and a good place to make a home and living. Government is supposed to tread lightly...but not in Oregon. Tom McCall would be sickened at what the state has become, as would my pioneer, conservative, hard working ancestors.

And idiots electing more DEMS, crooks, and now the Queen/Tyrant Brown, have cemented the downfall of Oregon in place. Not only that, trying at every turn to illegally usurp and violate our inherent and 2A rights, as well as those in our state Constitution. The powers that be have ignored that which the voters passed in ballot measures just because they didn't agree with it. The death penalty was one such example. That is NOT representative government. That is a dictatorship. No matter how often WE, THE PEOPLE, decide and vote, there is always the possibility the new measures will be ignored and shoved aside by fiat. Our votes increasingly do not count.
Recall attempts of the Queen have fallen flat.
Good luck.
Queenie will be laughing all the way to the bank after total destruction.

 

[03A3Sporter]

. Tom McCall would be sickened at what the state has become, as would my pioneer, conservative, hard working ancestors.

Nor trying to poke anyone in the eye with a stick since Tom McCall seems to be generally revered by many here, but speaking as an outsider without the rose colored glasses.

He supported many progressive agendas and helped get them passed into law. Good examples would be making all beaches public land and urban growth boundaries and the bottle bill .

People want to know why land and housing costs much here , its because of urban growth boundaries and statewide zoning even in unincorporated areas . I have a good friend who lives near Sisters and he had related to me while he was building his new home that once he was done building it, he had to remove the Mobile home that was on the property because he wasn't allowed to leave it there .

That is a somewhat alien concept to me because I had never heard of such a thing in my life outside of a metro or incorporated area.

I get what he was trying to do , he was trying to preserve something he thought was good but at the same time he fostered an environment that invited in very radical elements.

 

[bbbass]

That is NOT representative government. That is a dictatorship. No matter how often WE, THE PEOPLE, decide and vote, there is always the possibility the new measures will be ignored and shoved aside by fiat. Our votes increasingly do not count.
Recall attempts of the Queen have fallen flat.
Good luck.
Queenie will be laughing all the way to the bank after total destruction.

The last few years have given us total domination. Next up is a carbon tax scheme that the voters have said no several times. Also very strict gun control nonsense.

If I could move, I would. <sigh>

And Boise has a new ultra leftist mayor... don't move to Boise.

 

[bbbass]

People want to know why land and housing costs much here , its because of urban growth boundaries and statewide zoning even in unincorporated areas . I have a good friend who lives near Sisters and he had related to me while he was building his new home that once he was done building it, he had to remove the Mobile home that was on the property because he wasn't allowed to leave it there

Well, land use rules are a problem, and have been such since created. But by and large housing and property prices, as with most everything, is a function of demand. If we think "supply and demand", they ain't makin any more property. But in that land use doesn't let people subdivide rural property, your thinking as it applies to acreage is, IMO, correct.

 

[kummje]

I'm right behind you to Idaho after this last disgusting display from the so called leadership

 

[MannyGlocks]

Read "The Case Against Socialism" by Rand Paul.

If you are pro-commie this history will change your mind.