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National Reciprocity Fails

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by tonyspdx, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. tonyspdx

    tonyspdx Gresham, OR Member

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    From Oregon

    Jeff Merkley - Voted against
    Ron Wyden - Voted against
     
  2. Weebs

    Weebs Clackamas County Member

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    :( arg
     
  3. hapuna

    hapuna Seattle, WA Member

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    what was the final vote count?
     
  4. MarkSBG

    MarkSBG Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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  5. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Vote Counts: YEAs 58
    NAYs 39
    Not Voting 3

    Alphabetical by Senator Name

    Know your enemies!

    Akaka (D-HI), Nay
    Alexander (R-TN), Yea
    Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
    Baucus (D-MT), Yea
    Bayh (D-IN), Yea
    Begich (D-AK), Yea
    Bennet (D-CO), Yea
    Bennett (R-UT), Yea
    Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
    Bond (R-MO), Yea
    Boxer (D-CA), Nay
    Brown (D-OH), Nay

    Brownback (R-KS), Yea
    Bunning (R-KY), Yea
    Burr (R-NC), Yea
    Burris (D-IL), Nay
    Byrd (D-WV), Not Voting
    Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
    Cardin (D-MD), Nay
    Carper (D-DE), Nay

    Casey (D-PA), Yea
    Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
    Coburn (R-OK), Yea
    Cochran (R-MS), Yea
    Collins (R-ME), Yea
    Conrad (D-ND), Yea
    Corker (R-TN), Yea
    Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
    Crapo (R-ID), Yea
    DeMint (R-SC), Yea
    Dodd (D-CT), Nay
    Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
    Durbin (D-IL), Nay
    Ensign (R-NV), Yea
    Enzi (R-WY), Yea
    Feingold (D-WI), Yea
    Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
    Franken (D-MN), Nay
    Gillibrand (D-NY), Nay

    Graham (R-SC), Yea
    Grassley (R-IA), Yea
    Gregg (R-NH), Yea
    Hagan (D-NC), Yea
    Harkin (D-IA), Nay

    Hatch (R-UT), Yea
    Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
    Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
    Inouye (D-HI), Nay
    Isakson (R-GA), Yea
    Johanns (R-NE), Yea
    Johnson (D-SD), Yea
    Kaufman (D-DE), Nay
    Kennedy (D-MA), Not Voting
    Kerry (D-MA), Nay
    Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
    Kohl (D-WI), Nay

    Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
    Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
    Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
    Leahy (D-VT), Nay
    Levin (D-MI), Nay
    Lieberman (ID-CT), Nay

    Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
    Lugar (R-IN), Nay
    Martinez (R-FL), Yea
    McCain (R-AZ), Yea
    McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
    McConnell (R-KY), Yea
    Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
    Merkley (D-OR), Nay
    Mikulski (D-MD), Not Voting
    Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
    Murray (D-WA), Nay
    Nelson (D-FL), Nay
    Nelson (D-NE), Yea
    Pryor (D-AR), Yea
    Reed (D-RI), Nay
    Reid (D-NV), Yea
    Risch (R-ID), Yea
    Roberts (R-KS), Yea
    Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
    Sanders (I-VT), Nay
    Schumer (D-NY), Nay

    Sessions (R-AL), Yea
    Shaheen (D-NH), Nay
    Shelby (R-AL), Yea
    Snowe (R-ME), Yea
    Specter (D-PA), Nay
    Stabenow (D-MI), Nay

    Tester (D-MT), Yea
    Thune (R-SD), Yea
    Udall (D-CO), Yea
    Udall (D-NM), Yea
    Vitter (R-LA), Yea
    Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
    Warner (D-VA), Yea
    Webb (D-VA), Yea
    Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay
    Wicker (R-MS), Yea
    Wyden (D-OR), Nay
     
  6. simpleguy

    simpleguy Clackamas Active Member

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    I actually called Merkley's office this moroning(though that's a spelling error it may be more accurate when our Senators are involved).....you ought to hear his press release......."blah, blah, we don't want the States to be subject to Federal regulation in something that should be the State's business, don't want other States with lower restrictions to allow concealed carry holders in Oregon........blah, blah"......I asked the press release be read to me by the nice guy in the Portland Office that answered. The interesting thing is when I asked the guy if he was aware that the requirements for CHL holder in Oregon were some of the lowest in the States, and that this was a benefit to Oregon, it seemed like a revelation. Wasn't Merkley a State Senator or Representative first? He should know this.
     
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    hapuna Seattle, WA Member

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    Its unfortunate that all Senators from OR and WA voted NO! This has nothing to do with Federal regulation just as a DL has nothing to do with Federal Regulation its simply gives recognition in a similar way.
     
  8. ob1

    ob1 49th parallel Well-Known Member

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    Come on now guys Did you really expect those guys to vote yes on this ?
     
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    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    C&P

    "One thing to remember here -- the vote on the amendment actually passed, by a sizable majority.

    The only reason that it "failed" is that slime-ball Schumer promised a filibuster.
    The way the Senate works is that you don't actually have to carry out your filibuster, just claim that you will do one - the, since it needs 60 votes to override a filibuster, they assume that the filibuster will succeed, and just say that the vote fails.

    This, of course, is stupidity. Anyone who wants to play that particular ace should be forced to carry through with it."
     
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    simpleguy Clackamas Active Member

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    I guess I was wishin'..........hopin'............they'd listen to their constituents. Then again.......it's not an election year........I forgot. Sorry, my bad.
     
  11. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Do I expect them too? yes! Did I expect them too? No!
     
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    ob1 49th parallel Well-Known Member

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  13. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Oh I agree, I predict a future of "oh sorry it just about passed, better luck next time, I did what I could" when in reality this was decided and the votes tallied in advance!
     
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    ob1 49th parallel Well-Known Member

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    Sorry if I sounded a little sarcastic trismn it wasn't directed at you. I just cant throw stones all the way back to DC any more. :(
     
  15. Joe Link

    Joe Link Portland, OR Well-Known Member Staff Member Lifetime Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I'm very happy to see a bunch of D's voted for it and only two R's voted against it.
     
  16. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Ah but sarcasm is my favorite form of humor, don't stop now!
     
  17. ob1

    ob1 49th parallel Well-Known Member

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    Ya Joey, only two R's voted against it.

    R is for R.h I.N.O. *Republican in name only


    One thing though, I bet all the guys engaged in the business of putting on Utah and Florida CHL classes are breathing a sigh of relief. Thats It !!! the vote was part of the job stimulus plan !
     
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    Scott Battle Ground Well-Known Member

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    At least the majority is for it and when the dem's most likely lose congress next year I bet it will be pushed through again. I can't wait for congress to change. That's CHANGE I believe in. Good luck.

    Scott
     
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    xstayfrostyx PDX Member

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    The Democans and Republicrats are interchangable...

    The only difference between the two is ie: If the Democrats voted to burn down the Library of Congress tomorrow, the Republicans would propose phasing it in over a three day period.
     
  20. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Nice to see someone who gets it! :thumbup: