Ha! well okay, not really. I saw these things and the looked like a compact cross between a Sig and a Daewoo. There were several even some in FDE, etc. I had never heard of them before... and NO I dont remember the name, but there were made here in WA state. Anyone else see them or know what Im talking about? trying to google what I can, but no luck. Im curious about them as they are essentially a no-name pistol but were listed for around $600 IIRC, they seemed solid and were of a good size for CCW too.