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Mysterious 7.62x39 ammo with substance in hollow tip?? Pictures

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by badclam, Nov 26, 2013.

  1. badclam

    badclam willapa bay Sunny SW WA Active Member

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    I cut this Chinese ammo open to see if it was steel core and found that the tip was hollow and was full of these little round white balls. Before I go shoot a rock to try it out, does anybody have an idea what it is?
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  2. jordanvraptor

    jordanvraptor Oregon City, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Just a guess but maybe its an incendiary bullet. Hit the white powder with a hammer on a hard surface to see if it ignites... Just kidding :)
     
  3. CamoDeafie

    CamoDeafie Albany Well-Known Member

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    Dan1477 Beaverton, Oregon Active Member

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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Probably something toxic knowing the chinese.
    Not sure I would handle it until I knew for sure.
     
  6. CamoDeafie

    CamoDeafie Albany Well-Known Member

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    after watching THIS video;
    AMMOTEST: 7.62x39 HEI High Explosive Incendiary ammo AK 47 SKS WASR-10 - YouTube

    and reading this page;
    Explosives

    I would have to say; PULL THE BULLET and see if the bottom of the bullet matches the video's, if so, then it is a HEI rifle round....and regarding OPSEC; you might want to stash the ammo; or hide it very well.... and mark them so that you KNOW which one is which, it'd be POOR sportsmanship to have one of those impact a steel gong at the range; or to have one go into a deer... shooting it into a rock is a bad idea if it is like the video's display, you certainly don't want to risk ricochets with this type if indeed, it is a HEI rifle round.
     
  7. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    I'd try to see if it burns. If it's inert, it's to destabilize it.. so it tumbles etc. when it hits. I remember some old military rounds used like light wood or something up front to do the same.
     
  8. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    my $ says it's plastic, probably polyethylene, many bullets over the years have had fillers in the nose to give the bullet a longer profile to give a better ballistic coefficient without adding weight and retarding muzzle velocity.

    The brits used paper in some Mk VII rounds, and the SS109 (M855) bullet uses steel. The reason you have a point filler is so the core doesn't move around during production.

    Put a few of them into a cup of water, if they float it's probably PE, if it dissolves it's probably salt, if it sinks or burns it might be an explosive (BUT I REALLY DOUBT THIS)
     
  9. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    I'd treat it as toxic, feed some to the wife's cat as a test
     
  10. badclam

    badclam willapa bay Sunny SW WA Active Member

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    Good Idea! I hate cats.

    Whatever it is it seems to be rare and unusual. I got a bunch of it loose in an ammo can in a trade for some 45 acp. I thought it was just regular Chinese surplus to be shot up. I always check for steel cores when I get a head stamp I don't know. I was surprised at what I found.
     
  11. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Looks like silica gel to me
     
  12. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    That's terrible. You'll risk rendering the cat completely inedible.
     
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  13. badclam

    badclam willapa bay Sunny SW WA Active Member

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    I didn't think that through. Thanks guys!:thumbup:
     
  14. jluck

    jluck Really,Really, Close to Newport Oregon 97365 Voted #1 Member

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    Now that's just funny, There! :bluelaugh:
     
  15. TwinStick

    TwinStick In the wind Active Member

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    Good on you for cutting it open. I would have just used a magnet to test the core. I learned my one new thing for today.
     
  16. badclam

    badclam willapa bay Sunny SW WA Active Member

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  17. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    Good find! I always like it when people agree with me! :)
     
  18. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    Shoot it at my neighbors' stupid dog. If it quits barking than it's good ammo.
     
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    8ball WA Quit talkin' and start chalking!

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    Thanks for making gun owners look good!
     
  20. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Grunwald must have a neighbor like mine. NEVER get a beagle for an urban yard dog