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Now to find some Aquila mini shells that are not a $1 a round.....
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Now to find some Aquila mini shells that are not a $1 a round.....
Yeah, yesterday. I posted their letter in this very thread. Do you not see the issue with Oregon DOJ calling them "pistols?"Oregon officially (finally) just realized that the Shockwave and TAC-14 are legal!!!
Yeah, yesterday. I posted their letter in this very thread. Do you not see the issue with Oregon DOJ calling them "pistols?"
A pistol with a smooth bore is an AOW. That's what these would become if they were under 26", so if some knuckle dragger put on a normal pistol grip, they would run afoul of the NFA.When some with an OR CHL start carrying these I would expect someone there will pull their head out and reclassify them. I too wish WA would classify these as a handgun. If they did I would literally be down there the next day buying one.
A pistol with a bore diameter over 0.5" is an AOW. That's what these would become if they were under 26", so if some knuckle dragger put on a normal pistol grip, they would run afoul of the NFA.
A pistol with a smooth bore is an AOW. That's what these would become if they were under 26", so if some knuckle dragger put on a normal pistol grip, they would run afoul of the NFA.
A pistol with a smooth bore is an AOW. That's what these would become if they were under 26", so if some knuckle dragger put on a normal pistol grip, they would run afoul of the NFA.
You can only buy long guns outside of your state of residence. Pistols, firearms, receivers, etc HAVE to be transferred through an FFL in your state of residence.I'm also wondering - what about those already transferred as "firearm", are they now suddenly reclassified?
And what about buying one in Washington as an Oregon resident? Would that be allowed? I know I can buy a rifle or shotgun in WA, but what about a "firearm"? If that were legal, would it suddenly become a "pistol" when you cross the river"? Does the state have the authority to reclassify a weapon already classified by the ATF?
Lots of questions still lingering.
You can only buy long guns outside of your state of residence. Pistols, firearms, receivers, etc HAVE to be transferred through an FFL in your state of residence.
Do you know, besides these two guns, are there many other "firearms" classified items out there?
And what do you think about my question on the right of the state to classify as a pistol what the ATF classifies as a "firearm"?
The old mossberg JIC was sold as a "firearm, pistol grip," and so is the Black Aces Tactical 12 ga. The state is 100% wrong in this case because they're dictating to federal firearms dealers how to classify something on a federal form.Thanks for the clarification. Honestly, until this subject came up, I had never been aware of the separate 4th classification "firearm". I knew pistols had to be in my home state, but the "firearm" thing is new to me.
Do you know, besides these two guns, are there many other "firearms" classified items out there?
And what do you think about my question on the right of the state to classify as a pistol what the ATF classifies as a "firearm"?
The old mossberg JIC was sold as a "firearm, pistol grip," and so is the Black Aces Tactical 12 ga. The state is 100% wrong in this case because they're dictating to federal firearms dealers how to classify something on a federal form.
If the states wanted sovereignty when it comes to firearm sales then they should have never supported the gun control act of 1968.
So long as the OAL is over 26", and a shoulder stock is NOT installed, you can do what you want. Forward pistol grip, sig brace, normal pistol grip, etc. same rules as an AR pistol that goes over 26".Calling the Shockwave a pistol, should make it legal for a pistol grip to be added but then the OAL drops below 26".
So a Mesa tactical AR15 stock conversion with a sig brace and pistol grip would keep it over 26"s but would changing the grip change the classification of the firearm?
Wish they came with a breacher barrel, wood grips, and a leather strap.
Calling the Shockwave a pistol, should make it legal for a pistol grip to be added but then the OAL drops below 26".
So a Mesa tactical AR15 stock conversion with a sig brace and pistol grip would keep it over 26"s but would changing the grip change the classification of the firearm?
Wish they came with a breacher barrel, wood grips, and a leather strap.