Other State More than 34,000 Illinoisans have lost their right to own a gun

[DB is Here]

More than 34,000 Illinoisans have lost their right to own a gun. Nearly 80% may still be armed.

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[RicInOR]

• more than 34,000 people had their FOID cards revoked between 2015 and 2019 alone. [ Out of how many citizens? ]
• moved out of state. In reality, less than 4% — or 1,332 of 34,221— lost their FOIDs for that reason.
• state rescinded 10,527 FOID cards for domestic violence-related reasons (1/3)
• state revoked 10,067 FOID cards for mental health concerns, including voluntary and non-voluntary hospitalizations. ( 1/3 )

• "Part of that accountability," she said, "means taking guns away from people we have decided are too dangerous to have them."
• "We would love if the state just enforced the law," she said. "Go knocking on doors and take away these guns from people who shouldn't have weapons. That's all we want."
  
• Ziman said she does not want to send her officers on cold calls at the homes of former FOID cardholders without knowing what kind of weapons are waiting for them behind closed doors.

Apparently the Citizen, can sell or transfer the guns, or turn them into police for $0. So let us take property (much like we do related to drugs )



I am not sure what this statement means:
" About 3 out of 4 such revokees failed to tell the state where their weapons are, despite making a combined 5,000 serious inquiries about purchasing guns before the revocation."
"Of the records examined by the Tribune, there were 30,816 FTIP statewide associated with revoked cardholders who failed to submit paperwork accounting for their firearms. In Cook County, that number was 6,644, including 3,023 in Chicago."

This seems to say to me, that a person with an Card made an attempt to buy a gun at a FFL. Was that before they lost the card? After? Total?

 

[mrblond]

"Part of that accountability," she said, "means taking guns away from people we have decided are too dangerous to have them."

this is the scary part, at what point will the government think everyone but the state is to dangerous to have them?

 

[cigars]

"Part of that accountability," she said, "means taking guns away from people we have decided are too dangerous to have them."

this is the scary part, at what point will the government think everyone but the state is to dangerous to have them?

It's simple. They will make that decision based upon voter registration. If not that then they will start scouring social media for anyone with political viewpoint dissenting from theirs.

 

[DB is Here]

scouring social media

Seems China has already gone down that rabbit hole, how long until Intelligent AI makes it worldwide...

 

[bbbass]

Seems China has already gone down that rabbit hole, how long until Intelligent AI makes it worldwide...

What state is, or has proposed, doing just that? Was it New Jersey, New York?

FOID card... that's where it starts, confiscation is next. ... BEWARE!!!!

 

[cigars]

Seems China has already gone down that rabbit hole, how long until Intelligent AI makes it worldwide...

They will start passing laws to make it mandatory that every citizen is "plugged in" to social media. Everybody will have an AI based dossier. Undesirable behavior will get you into re-education classes. For those whom AI finds deplorable, off to the re-education camps. Beyond that then you are disappeared.

 

[DB is Here]

Beyond that then you are disappeared.

Based on your posts...You're hosed...

 

[cigars]

Based on your posts...You're hosed...

Crime is growing in major cities. Look at all of the behaviors that have been decriminalized. With the homeless population exploding, fueled by transplanting entire population centers from other countries to our cities and soil, the standard for maintaining law and order is becoming ineffective. Politicians tell prosecutors to ignore all crime except major offenses. Society is becoming desensitized to what used to be considered anti social behavior. In order to gain control over the masses, behavioral deterrents will have to be implemented. This long ramp up to dependency on social media is engineered. It's just the first phase. China with its more homogenus society started out ahead of us with their social credit system, coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

 

[dcfranzen]

I guessing a large boat sank in Lake Michigan carrying a big load of firearms for ex-FOID cardholders and those anticipating the loss of privilege to own a firearm in the State of Illinois.

 

[IceAxRiflRvlvr]

Did you say "privilege"??

 

[DB is Here]

Did you say "privilege"??

 

[2A2Dend]

 

[nammac]

It's simple. They will make that decision based upon voter registration. If not that then they will start scouring social media for anyone with political viewpoint dissenting from theirs.

Kinda reminiscent of what Hitler and the Nazi's did... Huh, imagine that, history repeating itself....

 

[PiratePast40]

..." About 3 out of 4 such revokees failed to tell the state where their weapons are, despite making a combined 5,000 serious inquiries about purchasing guns before the revocation." ...

I just had an image of Gomer Pyle saying "gooooly" skim across my mind.

 

[dcfranzen]

Yes, I wrote privilege which the state grants through its licensing law. The state cannot take away a right guaranteed by the constitution, but they are able to deny certain people from a select group through the FOID. Now, if folks don't want to obey the law then...

 

[bbbass]

Crime is growing in major cities. Look at all of the behaviors that have been decriminalized. With the homeless population exploding, fueled by transplanting entire population centers from other countries to our cities and soil, the standard for maintaining law and order is becoming ineffective. Politicians tell prosecutors to ignore all crime except major offenses. Society is becoming desensitized to what used to be considered anti social behavior. In order to gain control over the masses, behavioral deterrents will have to be implemented. This long ramp up to dependency on social media is engineered. It's just the first phase. China with its more homogenus society started out ahead of us with their social credit system, coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

We need a coupla Purges!

 

[Stomper]

Seems China has already gone down that rabbit hole, how long until Intelligent AI makes it worldwide...

What state is, or has proposed, doing just that? Was it New Jersey, New York?

FOID card... that's where it starts, confiscation is next. ... BEWARE!!!!

They will start passing laws to make it mandatory that every citizen is "plugged in" to social media. Everybody will have an AI based dossier. Undesirable behavior will get you into re-education classes. For those whom AI finds deplorable, off to the re-education camps. Beyond that then you are disappeared.

Based on your posts...You're hosed...

 

[Stomper]

Crime is growing in major cities. Look at all of the behaviors that have been decriminalized. With the homeless population exploding, fueled by transplanting entire population centers from other countries to our cities and soil, the standard for maintaining law and order is becoming ineffective. Politicians tell prosecutors to ignore all crime except major offenses. Society is becoming desensitized to what used to be considered anti social behavior. In order to gain control over the masses, behavioral deterrents will have to be implemented. This long ramp up to dependency on social media is engineered. It's just the first phase. China with its more homogenus society started out ahead of us with their social credit system, coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

 

[RVTECH]

Reading between the lines It appears to me the biggest problem is the state has come to the conclusion they are facing potentially more weapons than the FOID cards reflect. And that is what is scaring them.