More News About Portland Gang/Gun Problems

[K-22]

Google Green Brothers guns.
Quite enlightening.
What Ya got to say, JoAnn H?

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[Knobgoblin]

They were just starting to turn their lives around?

 

[JohnnyMac]

Good thing the ATF is keeping an eye on this kind of stuff.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Good thing the ATF is keeping an eye on this kind of stuff.

No dogs to shoot, so they decided to hang back and wait.

 

[Dungannon]

Catch & Release. It's not just for fish.

I guess 82 is the threshold for the ATF to take a look.

 

[Knobgoblin]

 

[po18guy]

Good thing the ATF is keeping an eye on this kind of stuff.

Yeah. Too bad it's a glass eye.

 

[Member 3687]

Mabey I am missing something as I do not know Oregon law but how were the purchases illegal. Yes, I understand the shootings were illegal but they are charged with buying the guns illegally not shooting them or selling them. Were they felons to start with or is there a one gun a month limit or what's the story?

If it is a state law they broke then why are the feds charging them with buying guns as I know of no limit on purchases federally.

Could someone please explain?

 

[K-22]

Mabey I am missing something as I do not know Oregon law but how were the purchases illegal. Yes, I understand the shootings were illegal but they are charged with buying the guns illegally not shooting them or selling them. Were they felons to start with or is there a one gun a month limit or what's the story?

If it is a state law they broke then why are the feds charging them with buying guns as I know of no limit on purchases federally.

Could someone please explain?

Perhaps "strawman" purchases.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Mabey I am missing something as I do not know Oregon law but how were the purchases illegal. Yes, I understand the shootings were illegal but they are charged with buying the guns illegally not shooting them or selling them. Were they felons to start with or is there a one gun a month limit or what's the story?

If it is a state law they broke then why are the feds charging them with buying guns as I know of no limit on purchases federally.

Could someone please explain?

On the surface, it appears to be a large amount were purchased legally and subsequently delivered to prohibited persons. Straw purchases, specifically within a criminal gang.

 

[Member 3687]

I do understand straw purchase and I just found an article saying they falsified documents so it makes more since now but the first 3 articles made no mention of this. They did mention that a number of the guns were at their fathers home and several where found in one of their cars but only stated a couple where in an other persons possession and selling a few guns is hardly a straw purchase.

Do not get me wrong I figured it was all illegal but the articles I found where just pushing the purchase aspect as if that was the crime and nothing else.

 

[K-22]

I do understand straw purchase and I just found an article saying they falsified documents so it makes more since now but the first 3 articles made no mention of this. They did mention that a number of the guns were at their fathers home and several where found in one of their cars but only stated a couple where in an other persons possession and selling a few guns is hardly a straw purchase.

Do not get me wrong I figured it was all illegal but the articles I found where just pushing the purchase aspect as if that was the crime and nothing else.

Much has yet to be revealed. If these people were to get prosecuted at the federal level, (slim chance) they could put them away well into the next century.

 

[Member 3687]

I agree and I found another article that said they found one of them with firearms and 2 pounds of package pot yet another felony so sorry for the "what the heck question" its just the media can spin something a bit differently if it fits the agenda, Like buying 82 guns was the crime and nothing else.

 

[Mathias]

Good thing the ATF is keeping an eye on this kind of stuff.

They are busy protecting school boards.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

First question on the 4473: Are you the actual person purchasing the firearm?

 

[WillametteWill]

From one article:
"They are charged with falsifying information in connection with the acquisition of a firearm and making false statements in a federal firearms licensee record."

Educated guess here, they are admitted gang members so it would not be a stretch to say they are prohibited persons. If so, glad the BGC systems works so well. sarc/ off

They were also found with weed so another potential 4473 violation. Straw purchase could be another. But since journalism is dead we really don't know.

 

[JohnnyMac]

But since journalism is dead we really don't know.

And likely never will have the factual story....

 

[Ruger Rich]

From one article:
"They are charged with falsifying information in connection with the acquisition of a firearm and making false statements in a federal firearms licensee record."

Educated guess here, they are admitted gang members so it would not be a stretch to say they are prohibited persons. If so, glad the BGC systems works so well. sarc/ off

They were also found with weed so another potential 4473 violation. Straw purchase could be another. But since journalism is dead we really don't know.

But since journalism is dead we really don't know. It's not dead, it's just slanted
by the writers opinion and personal political feelings.

 

[Murphy]

The biggest gang/firearm issue Portland has is with the Somali gangs. Next time you hear about a 50+ round drive by its the Somali's in action.

Its a shame that neither the city nor county wants to announce this problem.

 

[kmk1012]

Let's see here, who else also lied on a 4473? Possibly a current POTUS's son?