Moratorium on hunting

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I grew up in a poor place at a poor time.
My good friend Bill who had four siblings was often fed poached deer.

Finally one day his father was caught and fined $100.

When the Judge fined him, he made the comment. ''Pretty expensive deer wasn't it''?
To this he replied. ''I figure about a dollar a deer Your Honor''.
I mean, Bill's dad made a pretty funny comment, I'll give him that - but implicating oneself in the poaching of 99 more deer (in front of a judge no less) doesn't strike me as the best idea in the word... :p
 

The Heretic

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I would say that hunting season should maybe be postponed until there is rain in a given area.

There are a LOT of idiots out there. I just spent almost a week away from home because some idiot landowner decided to have a weenie roast in the middle of a windstorm and in the middle or fire danger season, and I was lucky - I feel bad for all the landowners who had acreage/trees burned up. I hope the idiots get sued big time.

And yes, I know, most hunters are not idiots, but right now we don't need one idiot out of ten thousand hunters starting another fire.
 
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I mean, Bill's dad made a pretty funny comment, I'll give him that - but implicating oneself in the poaching of 99 more deer (in front of a judge no less) doesn't strike me as the best idea in the word... :p

As I remember he did catch more grief for his comment.

And what that Man did , he knew was wrong.
But he never took an ounce of charity.


Hell. Back then they didn't hand out food like today.
 

Siglvr

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I'm not a fan of not letting the scientists who we are already paying to do that job NOT do their job we are paying them for. Especially if it involves masses of uneducated proles like me spouting my unedumacated mouth off what amounts to stupid knee jerk opinions.

For instance, a few years back ignorant voters in Oregon said: "NO MORE HUNTING WITH DOGS" for cougars. Since then instead of cougar hunting being a money maker for Ore. fish and wildlife, the fish and wildlife dept have been literally paying with our tax dollars to have cougars hunted by paid hunters who hunt with cougars with dogs. Literally paying to have cougars hunted by hunters with dogs. It's somewhere far beyond stupid, and not likely to change anytime soon.

Here's an idea I have for Oregonians, lets make anyone who voted YES to ban hunting with dogs by hunters pay for it via an annual assessment so that their ignorance can be revisited on them annually and personally.
 

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Here's an idea I have for Oregonians, lets make anyone who voted YES to ban hunting with dogs by hunters pay for it via an annual assessment so that their ignorance can be revisited on them annually and personally.
I agree - considering WE as gun and ammo buyers already pay an excise tax of 11% as per the Pittman-Robertson act of 1937 which provides aid to States for management and restoration of wildlife.

SO those who voted to BAN the hunting of Cougars with dogs should as well pay an additional tax to make up for any losses they created as well as additional expenses of the contract cougar hunting.

I would have loved to see what would have happened if the ballot clause were to mention:

'By voting yes on the banning of cougar hunting with dogs you will, as an INDIVIDUAL voting for this, be assessed an additional 11% in taxes annually'

Ya think they would have still voted yes?
 
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Agreed to those who posted before me....animals flee the area when in danger...yes some will get killed due to the fire, but there will be plenty that are just temporarily displaced. They don't have "homes" in the human sense of the word, and can find forage and cover in other areas. They will also be back once the tender sprouts start growing.

In some parts of the state deer will roll in ash piles to get rid of ticks and mites. This was observed and reported by firefighters/hunters who were working wildfires. I don't know if this is the "norm" but fires are a part of the survival equation for animals.

I personally saw a racoon in broad daylight bugging out as the smoke got thicker last week. Again, anecdotal evidence, but shows that animals know something isn't right and will flee/move.

In many cases, the forage afforded and thinned forests will benefit animals. This will clear out choked meadows and establish more light to the forest floor. Unfortunately, based on previous fires in the last 20 years, I'm guessing the total loss of the trees, creating dead stands of timber. Unfortunately, the "management" of the forests has been POOR, with heavy fire suppression and not allowing small fires to cut down the understory yet keep the trees alive. So we will have sterilized soil and dead stands of timber.

I'm in favor of allowing harvesting the burned stands of timber, and then replanting. No reason to let it go to waste. (Leave wilderness areas natural) As a benefit, some soil will be turned over to facilitate germination, roads will be rebuilt/opened/established, and the land will be replanted because that's responsible.

We should not shut down hunting in the state. The state needs to stay the course and start adding better science, vs legislation. Poachers are lawless individuals, legislation will not change that, only tougher penalties.

I don't know how many fires have been started by "hunting bullets" WHILE HUNTING, but I can't imagine it's very many.

Steel tipped, tracers, etc have caused fires, but those using them were not "hunting." Improperly managed campfires, vehicles driving through fields, and improper incendiary device usage with hunting ammunition (ex. shooting propane canisters) is MUCH higher than a hunting bullet....fired at a game animal....starting a fire.
 

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