These are brand new. They are a clone of the original DMS scopes, the gen 1 not the current version. They are 1.25-4x, glass is clear. They hold zero with out a problem. I had one on my 44mag lever gun a couple AR's and even mounted the one I had to my '06 for giggles. They have a german #4 type illuminated dot reticle and 30mm tube. Glass is really good for the money. Got 2 available. Price is $110ea. These are brand new, but do not include manuel or box. Sold as is, shipping is extra, no trades.