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Military Trail, court marshal in doubt

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by erudne, Sep 21, 2014.

  1. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    Posted on September 20, 2014 by sundance
    bergdahls-with-obama.jpg?w=680&h=424 bowe-bergdahl-haqqanni.jpg?w=562&h=424
    …a senior Army official told me court-martialing Bergdahl would “make the president look bad.” In spite of damning evidence against him, the official expects Pentagon brass to separate him from the military with a less-than-honorable discharge, sparing Obama total embarrassment….
    (New York Post) Three and a half months have come and gone and the Pentagon has offered no clarity on what happened to alleged Army deserter and Taliban collaborator Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl. Fellow soldiers and other critics fear the military’s now-delayed investigation is shaping up to be a whitewash.
    The case has become a political powder keg for President Obama.
    Since he traded five imprisoned Taliban leaders for Bergdahl, the US Government Accountability Office has declared the swap illegal, and nearly two dozen House Democrats have joined Republicans in officially condemning the move for making “Americans less safe.” Continue reading
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  2. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Obama is the one that should be in front of a Military tribunal for sedition , treason and just general principal for every damned act he has committed against this country for the past 6 years. Who gives a rip about him "looking bad" :s0161: he could not look any worse than he does already and is the biggest criminal this country has ever had. :s0127:

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  3. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I hope Bergdahl gets his just deserts at sometime in the future!
    I can barely stand to look at or read about our fearless leader anymore. Makes me want to be sick!
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  4. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Time to dig up this old thread. Update today, it looks like he WILL be charged with desertion:


    I wonder if that means we can take back the terrorists we released for him in the first place? :confused: Ahhh, the terrorists probably called "no take-backs", and Obama would have to honor that :s0123:

    I do wonder what the folks that rushed to his defense will have to say about this startling revelation?
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  5. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    Still don't understand this whole thing. 1 deserter for what was it 5 gitmo's??
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  6. Tbucket

    Tbucket Olympia,Wash. Active Member

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  7. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    Just WHY do you think the emperor is firing so many senior military officers?
    Could it be because they disagree with him on these matters . . .

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  8. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    It's because they would honor their oath about protecting the Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic, and/refuse to obey any (blatantly) unlawful orders should they be issued.

    Would be tyrants cannot have that!
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  9. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Had a good friend who was an officer in the Navy and he explained a military court marshal to me. He said the rules on evidence were so strict that if you were brought to court you were guilty. Court was just to make it official.
  10. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Latest info:
    Also anyone notice the Jane fonda clone resemblance with his mother??????????


    Reports: Bergdahl to be charged with desertion
    But Army claims no decision in case of soldier traded for 5 Gitmo-held terrorists
    Published: 22 hours ago. Updated: 01/27/2015 at 1:55 PM
    image: http://www.wnd.com/files/2015/01/Bergdahl_fam.jpg

    President Barack Obama with Jani and Bob Bergdahl, the parents of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, upon announcement of the prisoner swap

    Seven months after the military began an investigation into the disappearance of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl and his capture by the Taliban, which held him for five years, a new report indicates Army officials have determined Bergdahl — for whom the administration traded five top Gitmo-held terrorists — will be charged as a deserter.

    Retired Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, a senior fellow at the London Center for Policy Research, made the startling claim during an appearance on “The O’Reilly Factor” on Fox News:

    Bergdahl’s attorney has received the charges, according to Shaffer, who claims the Obama administration is withholding the report.

    But the Army Times claims the Army says there’s no truth to claims a decision has been made on the Bergdahl case. Paul Boyce, spokesman for Forces Command, told the Army Times there is no charge sheet and the Fox News story “seems to be speculative in nature.”

    “What they are reporting is untrue – there has been no update to what we provided in Dec. Investigation is still with [General Mark] Milley who will determine appropriate action – which ranges from no further action to convening a court martial. We cannot discuss or disclose the findings of the investigation while disciplinary decisions are pending before commanders,” the Army said in a statement provided to CNN Tuesday.

    Likewise, Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Admiral John Kirby posted the following statement on Twitter: “Contrary to media reporting, no decision made by Army leadership with respect to Sgt. Bergdahl’s case. The process will be respected.”

    O’Reilly said the White House has had this information for a while but has been delaying it under the auspices of Ben Rhodes, assistant national security adviser.

    “This is shaping up to be a Titanic struggle behind the scenes,” Shaffer said. “Believe me, the Army here wants to do the right thing. Factually, there’s no way they can not do the right thing regarding Bergdahl. And the White House, because of the political narrative, President Obama cozying up to the parents and because he, President Obama, releasing the five Taliban. … The narrative is what the White House does not want to have come out.”

    NBC News is separately reporting that a decision on the desertion charge is imminent and may come within a week, according to an anonymous senior defense officials.

    Bergdahl was recovered in Afghanistan by U.S. troops in a controversial swap for five Taliban officials on May 31. He had disappeared from his small patrol base on June 30, 2009, under a cloud of suspicion and fear as it became clear he been captured by militants.

    The Army in June launched a new investigation into Bergdahl’s disappearance and capture, amid a raft of accusations from his fellow soldiers that he walked away from his unit on the battlefield and questions about whether the Obama administration handled the prisoner swap legally.

    image: http://www.wnd.com/files/2014/06/bergdahl-exchange.jpg

    Taliban video shows release of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl May 31

    On Jan. 11, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey, said he anticipated a decision “fairly soon” on whether the Army would court martial Bergdahl for deserting his post.

    “In White House terms, not charging Bergdahl means that he was indeed worth the trade for the Taliban Five. But charging him on any level means that releasing the five Taliban was an error of monstrous proportions, one the administration will never be able to explain away satisfactorily,” said retired Lt. Col. Bill Cowen in a commentary written for the Fox News site.

    Former Sgt. Matt Vierkant told CNN last year, “Bowe Bergdahl deserted during a time of war, and his fellow Americans lost their lives searching for him.”

    “I don’t understand,” Vierkant added, “why we’re trading prisoners at Gitmo for somebody who deserted during a time of war, which is an act of treason.”

    A full 54 percent of Americans agreed in a June 2014 poll, saying Obama’s swap for Bergdahl amounted to providing aid to terrorists – which violates federal law. And they said impeachment is deserved.

    image: http://www.wnd.com/files/2014/06/USA_PFC_BoweBergdahl_ACU_Cropped.png

    Bowe Bergdahl

    In June, WND reported an explosive charge emerged – that Bergdahl’s fellow soldiers had orders to shoot him on sight as a deserter.

    A number of damning charges against Bergdahl came from soldiers who served with him. Some were posted on Facebook.

    The soldiers wrote anonymously, saying the Pentagon had them sign nondisclosure statements after Bergdahl disappeared from his post in Afghanistan in 2009. Some said they were still on active duty.

    WND also reported a four-year-old claim by a Taliban commander that Bergdahl wasn’t just a deserter but also a traitor who converted to Islam and taught jihadi fighters how to make bombs and ambush convoys.

    Afghan intelligence officials believed Bergdahl was “cooperating with the Taliban” and advising fighters at a base in Pakistan.

    A comment posted by a soldier who says he served with Bergdahl confirmed the charge.

    “What you have is pretty well spot on,” the post says. “All I know is that our orders were kill on contact and then we came back and it was covered up. I’ve personally been threatened a few times that discussing it in half the detail you already have was considered an act of treason.”

    Another post made clear the Army considered Berdahl not just a deserter but a defector.

    “My battalion took over the AO from 25th. The story of Bergdahl being a defector is exactly what was briefed to us and I also read the debrief report about the situation. The story is 100% correct. I’ve personally been on a few missions following up on Bergdahls location but we never found anything. I currently live an hour away from his family’s location. Hailey, Idaho, is a resort town frequented by movie stars etc. They typically side with the anti-war side of politics in that area and is a perfect spot for him to live in solitude.”

    image: http://www.wnd.com/files/2015/01/gitmo_bergdahl.jpg


    Another post that said Bergdahl deserted came from someone who said he was directly involved in the attempted recovery of Bergdahl.

    “Here is what I know, not from hearsay, but because I was there. Bergdahl became a sympathizer, walked off his post to seek out the Taliban in order to join their ranks, to help and live with them. In exchange for his release, the United States released the following 5 known Taliban; Khairullah Khairkhwa, Mullah Norullah Noori, Mullah Norullah Noori, Abdul Haq Wasiq, Mohammed Nabi who were immediately welcomed back into the Taliban network. The Taliban are currently seeking the release of additional prisoners, but will not state specifics. Now that they have the blue print on how to accomplish this by simply capturing an American soldier and with the troop number drawing down to 9,800+, I can only hope our service men and women keep their heads on a swivel.”
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  11. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    All deaths that will be attributed to the scum that Obum turned loose, will be on Bergdahl's and Obum's head also.
  12. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    <- Why there aren't any school shootings in Israel!
    Teacher with long gun slung over her shoulder!!!

    Probably true for a normal enlisted person, but this is a special case leading right to the president so expect a different outcome!

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  13. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    I think the case has already been decided . . . the emperor didn't prosecute him in the media!!!!!

  14. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    That POS deserted his American brothers in arms and is a traitor to his country of free people. He helped terrorists and him and his family are muslims (ie, terrorists)
    So basically what I'm saying is he's barry's new best friend and the president will pardon him and/or pull the right strings to make this disappear.