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[ch139]

Salem

 

[Longbeard]

I was thinking that since good preparation for the economic collapse and the other calamities that we may be facing require neighbors to come together, we should start meeting our like minded neighbors.

I am very serious about my preparations for a severe economic downturn and such. Anyone else in Oregon city/Beaver Creek thinking like this? Send me a PM and let's chat.

What about the rest of you? If you are interested in meeting your like minded neighbors considerleaving a note here.

Cyborg

I'm not so much worried about an earthquake or storm as I am Ore,Wa, Calf, PDX, Sea, LAX, etc. governments going full Marxist and declaring The Peoples Revolution, and ordering wealth confiscation, etc. Look up the Paris Commune of 1870.
Actually I'm making financial plans to move to a "Free State" , its like 1860 all over again.

 

[Oohrah]

I'm not so much worried about an earthquake or storm as I am Ore,Wa, Calf, PDX, Sea, LAX, etc. governments going full Marxist and declaring The Peoples Revolution, and ordering wealth confiscation, etc. Look up the Paris Commune of 1870.
Actually I'm making financial plans to move to a "Free State" , its like 1860 all over again.

 

[Oohrah]

I'm thinking you most likely are not far off the beaten path in regard to being in an area of danger. It appears that slowly and then in spurts, it is beginning to show those signs with the density of the population following the far left instabilities. A police force without arms, one firearms bill after another, each more restrictive. I know what their thoughts are, but it's far from a solution. In fact it invites a Chicago like environment. I'm not sure moving out of state is a solution, but perhaps out of that immediate area would be helpful. It seems that sooner or later no matter where you go, a stance will need to happen, and it would be helpful to be nearest to like thinking people. Just remember, no man is an island. Sooner or later a stance will need to be taken against the madness that seems to be forming. Those people who live in less density populated areas will get to the point where civil rights will end up being the key factor of any unrealistic law that will be passed. Overlooked is the the Bill of Rights and the Constitution that trump any they may come up with. They already have run out of their common sense laws, and dipping into those things that are sure to be challenged. A shame that the time and money that will be spent on someone's notion of safely, which is nothing more than control. There are 230,000 laws that are failures as they do nothing to control crime. If they did, we wouldn't see any other laws regarding fire arms.

 

[Longbeard]

Thank you for a thoughtful and lucid response; that's rare these days. The answers to our problems are spiritual not political. I've seen Oregon & Portland slide politically and spiritually for years. In the last election an anti-abortion law proposal was defeated by a popular vote... And we're sliding in many other ways. Twenty years ago would you think that our streets would be littered with used hypodermic needles & human feces & urine? In Virginia the Governor, a doctor, calmly, in front of a microphone & camera calmly talked about infanticide. Our society is in steep, terminal decline, especially in the big cities. The liberal cities and states are constantly looking to enforce greater and greater top down control while conservative states are doing the opposite. I think it was Kentucky or Tennessee that just passed a law that said : " The second amendment is your concealed carry permit." Thomas Jefferson said: "When people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty."

And yes leaving does work. Was it Lot that was lead away from Sodom & Gomorrah by an angel? And Moses lead the Israelite's out of the corruption of Egypt and into the wilderness for years of purification. Also the Irish monks kept the flame of knowledge burning during the dark ages. History and life are cyclical, not linear; were just nearing the end of many cycles. Those that retreat into the wilderness, with intent, can become "God's Seed Corn" to renew society once it collapses.

What I was looking for was a small farming or ranching community that creates as much of its own food, water, housing, etc. as possible and where people help each other and are answerable to each other rather than sucking on the tit of an all powerful government. Those are the areas that will survive any collapse. Especially with solid spiritual and ethical leadership.

Blessings,
Longbeard

 

[Oohrah]

I'm afraid that there are no ideal places where there everything is totally perfect. However, it appears that every experiments with animals where over crowding seems to work that way with humans, and normality goes out the door. My choice of an area was first somewhere I could survive the climate if there were to be a break down in the power grid, and it wouldn't take all energies just to stay warm. Also one where the population density wouldn't explode, making other necessities difficult to obtain. Also foremost a water supply not dependent on another source where for some reason their wouldn't be an alternate. A food supply, freeze dry is perhaps the easiest to accumulate, and the rest is kind of fill in as you might discover a need. You will find a bit of the good, bad, and ugly, but ya get rounded out a bit. Lived in the long winters of Minn/Wisc. as a Kid. Edge of Death Valley with one job. High density populations, traveled some in the Marines, and settled in here for more than 30 years. It's looking like this will be the end of the road. Perfect, no, but it has more positive working for it than any of the others I have lived. With the turmoil of today many friends have moved out of the state, and find those places they moved to and lived before, also changed. I do admit if I had to live in Portland, I wouldn't happily survive. Last month I had business to take care of in the down town area. It was an education watching the locals operate sitting parked in my car. Thankful for the trip home! Your Bible quotes are certainly fitting, and the sad part is all the major Sanctuary Democratic run cities are identical, as are their mind sets. There are some who recognize the dangers and are attempting to take back some of the grass roots areas and hopeful to make it too much work for the present to keep their power control. Long shot, but to do nothing will be a terrible ending. Evil has to have no place to go except to leave.

 

[20ozjolt]

In an interesting boat here, work in Beaverton, live in the Boring / Sandy area would be interested in both areas.

 

[MannyGlocks]

Longboard,

Have you decided which state is a 'free state'?

If you did and I overlooked it, please forgive me.

Thanks!

 

[Oohrah]

What may be free today can be a Socialist Democratic state tomorrow. The west coast states may be an example, as it's like the camel's nose under the tent. Once that happens, the rest of it will shortly follow. It appears that three density populated areas rule the entire state of Oregon. However, enforcement of these draconian laws, and regulations may prove not an easy task. Only time, and the people's will tell!

 

[MannyGlocks]

'Socialist Democrat' defined: If you're a democrat, you're a socialist.

To be fair, a few democrat's aren't socialists, perhaps as many as .0000000001% of them aren't anti-gun socialists.

However, 99.999999999% are socialists and mixed within this group many go beyond being socialists and are instead marxists.

Remember that in the 2020 election.

 

[ch139]

South Salem here. Wanting to meet like minded folk.

Just wanted to share a bit. I saw that post in December 2013 and started coresponding with him. On December 31st 2013. I met this guy. His name was Rob. We had our first "prepper date" a lunchtime meeting in the Subway at the truck stop in Brooks, his wife chaperoned. Over the last almost six years Rob has become one of my best friends. He passed away Monday August 19th after a long and courageous fight with cancer. He was a son, husband, father, grandfather and great grandfather. He was a renaissance man to be sure. He was a true patriot and he was my friend.

 

[Legion489]

I'm in Iowa City, IA, commonly called "The Big Red One". Any one in or around central to eastern Iowa?

Yes I know this is the NORTHWESTERN firearms, but don't know that guns are regional or not!

Any chance this could be set up by state or zip code or some other way to find people in a certain area instead of going through 24 pages of posts?

As far as ops, I have met some of my best friends through sites like this, and met some people that I wouldn't care to met again. Life is a gamble every time you get out of bed, throw the dice!

MannyGlocks;

'Socialist Democrat' defined: If you're a democrat, you're a socialist.

To be fair, a few democrat's aren't socialists, perhaps as many as .0000000001% of them aren't anti-gun socialists.

However, 99.999999999% are socialists and mixed within this group many go beyond being socialists and are instead marxists.

Legion489;

Personally i think you are a little high on the number of demonrats who are NOT commie, but then I live in Iowa City and they do not call Iowa City "the Moscow of the Midwest", they call Moscow, Russia "the Iowa City of Russia"!

 

[Legion489]

I'm thinking you most likely are not far off the beaten path in regard to being in an area of danger. It appears that slowly and then in spurts, it is beginning to show those signs with the density of the population following the far left instabilities. A police force without arms, one firearms bill after another, each more restrictive. I know what their thoughts are, but it's far from a solution. In fact it invites a Chicago like environment. I'm not sure moving out of state is a solution, but perhaps out of that immediate area would be helpful. It seems that sooner or later no matter where you go, a stance will need to happen, and it would be helpful to be nearest to like thinking people. Just remember, no man is an island. Sooner or later a stance will need to be taken against the madness that seems to be forming. Those people who live in less density populated areas will get to the point where civil rights will end up being the key factor of any unrealistic law that will be passed. Overlooked is the the Bill of Rights and the Constitution that trump any they may come up with. They already have run out of their common sense laws, and dipping into those things that are sure to be challenged. A shame that the time and money that will be spent on someone's notion of safely, which is nothing more than control. There are 230,000 laws that are failures as they do nothing to control crime. If they did, we wouldn't see any other laws regarding fire arms.

A current Pew poll of Demonrats and Non-idiots asking if they expect violence in the next one to three years (if Donald gets re-elected) and 92% of the lib-tards said YES! (You do remember Antifa don't you? The "nazis" that were paid Hitlery campaign workers!) Only 62% of non-commies expected there to be violence. Personally I think the people that have always been violent in America to know if they will be violent again if they don't get their own way. Remember the talking head losers on MSNBC crying and going "this is not a nightmare, Donald actually won! BOO-HOO! Life is over! I'm leaving the US! (still waiting!), attack any non-commies and drive them out of restaurants, etc."

ALL politicos ignore the US Constitution! Well, OK, the Ten Amendments to the Constitution anyway. You know, "THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED." Even Donald is coming out and saying he intends to infringe on our rights, but no matter bad that might be, it is still better than Hitlery.

 

[Oohrah]

Don't have the ANTIFAs in the out laying areas, but I find that Demos are forming very liberal off shoots in lesser populated areas and giving it outer names . Attempts to control townships and counties through local politics, but so far they have been radical enough and smaller in numbers to where they have a terrible time winning issues. We have to fight like hell to continue to keep them off balance. I notice more and more their attempts of the use of children to voice protests and even participate in sign protests. It's great in a way because once identity is made, you know who deserves watching. Again still battling for second amendment protection, but politics are strange as they are really for it but few willing to get wet. It means doing it the hard way by gathering signatures and balloting. Demorats are lately showing true colors, and scary to any pro gunners. Very sad, and terrible with the bad timing of the NRA...shame on them. Hope it doesn't doom them as there are some beautiful people in it. Many don't realize the big loss could very well end up being the next civil war this country will face. It isn't anything to fool with. Old Beto is already crawl fishing, but typical of his party where his Alligator mouth overloads his humming bird rear end. Yeah, don't count old Hillary or the Muslim out of the picture. When they are quiet, worry. Time for the other shoe to drop for charges foe Obumer and all connected including Killery, Justice, FBI, and any connection. Charge them all under RICO and seize all assets and jail them while figuring out charges. It's legal!

 

[Howard1955]

 

[Howard1955]

Still identifying skill sets that would be needed in a long-term societal collapse, and starting to talk with friends and neighbors about who can fill various roles.

At some point we'll need to start having meetings, so we can get acquainted better and discuss strategies for thriving - not merely surviving.

 

[Oohrah]

Assess the area where you live, and only you will be able to decide if it has those things that you can subside in, and is it an area you want to live in. If it is...what do have to do to be able with comfort to carry out those things. In my area for instance, you could live without worry of winter cold being a factor of living of dying where as in other places you would have to make allowances for shelter and clothing for that type of survival. Thoughts of travel to a more friendly environment can expose one to many dangers that perhaps wouldn't be faced if you attempted to live in place. There are many things to think about, and many things you will find that you didn't think about!

 

[Stangler]

Tualatin here. Looking for a good group of like minded people.

Nate

 

[Oohrah]

I don't know how to advise you as I live on the south coast. During emergencies you are pretty much locked in or grid to where the population is pretty well at a stand still other than by foot traffic. I dread driving any where in or around Portland or for that matter any high density areas where being caught in traffic during rush hour, holiday, or an accident can cause hours of bumper to bumper driving. Really hard to avoid if you live in or around. Definitely would have two weeks to a month minimum MRE food supply and stored water with some type of heating and lighting. A great radio that is a low draw electrical and multiple station and bands. Goodly supply of batteries for it. If possible in my area that is rural there are getting to be more people getting HAM radio licenses and equipping themselves with home, car, and hand held radios that cover most radio needs of AM FM HF and 2 Meters and above along with emergency bands. I'm not sure how you feel about self protection, but I can guarantee in emergency situations there will not be adequate protection for all and it will be up to you for self protection. The more people, the greater the threat of self protection. A very good chance there will be a loss of power so lights, heat, and water will be absent. Also likely gasoline will not be able to be pumped or any business conducted as computers and cash registers will be out of service. Refrigeration, freezers after the third day food will need to be used. Sounds grim and it can be because your lack of movement may take awhile because of the number of people. If you don't have a plan in place, why move and expose yourself to unknowns? I think most under extreme conditions like quakes or fire think of getting out of Dodge, but if there isn't a really a great need, without a definite plan, I would make that plan to be one of being in place where the surroundings are known. Having gone through last year's fire, and being evacuated, I can tell you that it is much easier if not in immediate danger to have a plan within home than follow someone else's plans of shelter, food, and well being. In fact our area was not evacuated only once, but on stand by for a second one. Some refused to do so, but they had preplaned what actions would be taken as the fire progressed. I was one that had three different avenues of escape, but had I just had one like many, yes I would have left when the order was given. I don't think luck or skill will be there with the next one as the fire load where it was put out, there won't be time for them to evacuate. Many of those roads are one way in and block it...you don't get out! Sometimes it isn't so simple as those in Paradise found out. I was offered a firefighters job there years ago, but the hours just were not right. That single road into the little retirement town even back then looked a little lacking even back then. I used to pass that turn off every time we went down the Feather River Canyon on our Harleys on the way to Quincy...I always wondered if turning the job down may have been a mistake. Sometimes fate's good, but I would have been long retired but could have been living there?

 

[Antonb2k85]

Anybody in Snohomish area. I'm looking for meet someone who can share some knowledge In preparedness/survival type situations.