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Traded some British dude (These were issue for them) in Afghanagay for these and regret it. I have always hated Oakley gloves and it turns out that did not change. Mechanics gloves for the win if your chain of command is not tools about it but some people like these. They are Mediums and on the tight side. Maybe good for a women if she has man hands. Also has the hard knuckle stuff for face punching. Will trade for 9mm, 308 surplus, 5.56 or some 22. $35. These have just been tried on a few times. Part number 94025-323. The gloves are currently located in a sea of zombie like homeless people in Lents, Portland.