Maybe these attorneys from each of the 5 suits are talking to each other and just tag teaming the fed. Judge. It's all about timing?
But they'll shoot your dog!
I have read the ALL of the court documents. The lawyers for the Harney County hearing did a much better job of making a case.
I suspect they are talking, but honestly, they are probably each doing the best for their own client's interests, regardless of what happens to others - ie, trying to ban as much of it they can for as long as they can. These two guys just stipulated to what the judge already did, probably realizing it would be more productive for them to focus on trying their best to patch the holes in the evidence and arguments that the court opinion spelled out in the OFF case before they have a hearing. Unfortunately for OFF, somebody had to go first.
Couldnt find anything huh?
You lost your rights to smart a$$ comments when you told us that Oregon gun owners are getting what they deserve. Please do us a favor and go be smug and self righteous in your own little kingdom.
I didn't say you got what you deserve. You got what you set up. You have a direct democracy that turned on you. It's to be expected. Now, its really at the point where if you don't like it, and why would you, leave. People do it all the time. Oregon is a lost cause. You are now a minority with none of the protections normally afforded a minority. 114 was just your fellow Oregonians first step. It will get worse in subjugating you. Much worse.
Now you're just trolling. There's already a thread for those trash talking Oregonians stuck in this mess. Please take it over there and let the adults have a conversation. You are contributing nothing toward a solution.
There is no solution. You might have some temporary redress in the courts but your fellow Oregonians are on a roll and they have every intention of rolling over you. It just started. GTFO.
He's not wrong. A victory against 114 will only provide a temporary reprieve.
One last ballot to harvest before they pull the plug.
The Harney Judge, Raschio (sp) is a former past president of the Oregon Criminal Defense Lawyers Association and Criminal Defense attorney; I am pretty sure about this. He would be lo0oking at 114 through a different "defense" lens.
Going forward, each appeal is going to better than the last because they have already heard the objections and reasons for the previous rulings. That's why it's important to look at keeping them separate if it's to our advantage. Cost wise, that may not be the best option, but it's a point to consider.
Maybe, maybe not - I am a pessimist and skeptic when it comes to human nature, so I can't deny that the entropy of politics means we are slowly circling the drain.
I like to "try" and be hopeful. It hasn't been that long since Bruen and across the nation we have been making some fantastic progress is starting to unravel the past 3 decades or so of infringments. Each win plays off of another, strenthening the next challenge and helps push the momentum.
Not to mention the voters killing a license for illegals and the legislature reinstating it.
Canada and NZ. It used to be either one you could at least take a hunting rifle, a shotgun and maybe a revolver (or get one there) if you were going into the backcountry. But now that is looking to be less and less like a possibility.
And then passing all legislation they don't want voters/ignorant unwashed masses to overturn using the "Emergency" process to prevent referendum. How voters don't see that as a big red flag is beyond me.
