That's laffable…. 1.2 DGU's annually in Portland…. I'd challenge that, gang bangers probably exceed that number any hour on a typical Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday night…
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Last time I checked my ability to "call in the Calvary" is pretty limited compared to what LEO's can do.
, but I'm guessing on the sliding scale of 'None To LEO' what the rest of you can call in is still closer to me than the LEO's
FUDD!09/22 End of day...
The final witness was a former alphabet agent and the past 10yrs acting as an expert firearm consultant. Nothing substantive was gained by the defense other than to establish that 10rnd mags can not be altered to accept more than 10rnds without some type of tool (pen, pencil, or other) and/or additional parts. IE., An extension.
The witness himself was a bit weak and out of touch with the market, IMHO. Most of his active education in firearms is over a decade old. Among some of his fumbles was declaring that a G23 comes standard with a 10rnd magazine. Additionally, that most all mag extensions require a set screw so a screwdriver would also be necessary. Although he eventually altered his testimony, he also declared that a mag with a limiting block integrated into the base plate may not be altered to accept more than 10rnds. After being asked if the current polymer plug integrated baseplate could be replaced with a standard baseplate to increase the capacity he reluctantly agreed "it may be possible".
He also testified that most extensions require a person to use other tools to reshape or file metal to "fit" an extension.
Regardless... the overall testimony didn't supply a single new bit of relevant information that wasn't already introduced by the plaintiff's witnesses.
The most contentious to me was that he was testifying that having served as a LE officer he does not personally feel that LEO's and private citizens face the same types of SD issues and do not require the same number of rounds to be available to them for their defense. Between the plaintiffs attorney and the Judge it was framed appropriately for the record as his personal opinion and not within his prevue as qualified to offer expert opinion on that matter.
(My own commentary)
Interestingly... he doesn't feel citizen SD requires higher round counts but he personally uses a 10mm 1911... which is of a higher caliber than he carried as a LE agent. I guess in his estimation, citizens personal defense "requires" larger calibers with fewer rounds vs. smaller caliber higher round count firearms(?)
The only other point of notice was the defense attempting to imply that if OR M114 goes into affect that the firearm industry will adjust to that new requirement and produce mags compliant to OR's new law. It was cut short of actually saying it, but was headed in that direction before the Plaintiff's curtailed the attempt. Reading between the lines of her questioning and statements though the implication was still there.
Court to resume Monday at 9:00am. The Judge wanting the hearing to be concluded by the end of the day but left open the possibility it may not.
Both LEOs and civilians are pretty much on their own most of the time, although LEOs tend to react more quickly and en masse when one of their own needs help.Last time I checked my ability to "call in the Calvary" is pretty limited compared to what LEO's can do.
To be fair, part of that might be because I am, well . . . ME
What's 114?
CXIV
CAC never enforced the "rules". john miller said he cannot force his members to wear masks and kept his clubs open for the health of his members despite getting fined which im sure hes not going to pay. as much as i used to dislike the guy for some BS way back, i respected that. i never wore a mask once in any one of his clubs.
They will pick their battles on what to enforce or not enforce and what happens next after they take the guns.
All of them were fired to neutralize the threat.
Right, but that's the point. Cops aren't told to keep it under a round count, and most cops I know to a person will say "you shoot until you don't need to anymore. If you have to reload, you reload." Which is the proper answer for cops and citizens. Cops aren't special, and if anything train a lot more than most citizens (that's a separate problem) so creating a legal disparity between what cops can carry vs. civilians alone is a problem.
What can we do?
Learn about the prospects and vote.
Yes. It's a little early to get very much involved but people can certainly start preparing. Calling or emailing your county republican party office and getting on their mailing lists is a start. That way, you should start getting info about the upcoming elections and info on candidates. I'll not get too far involved in that discussion here, just want to remind people that, as members of a representative republic, we need to participate if we want a seat at the table and have our voices heard.
