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Massachusetts SJC rules 2nd Amendment does not apply to States

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by treemanx, Mar 13, 2010.

  1. treemanx

    treemanx Spray, Or. Active Member

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    Interesting......

    http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100311/NEWS/3110340

     
  2. longcolt

    longcolt Zephyrhills, FL Active Member

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    Bunch of liberal anti-gun dolts live in that part of the country.:laugh:
     
  3. treemanx

    treemanx Spray, Or. Active Member

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    I'm fairly surprised that this hasn't gotten more response!? Does this not seem pretty messed up, or what? Trying to say that the 2A doesn't apply to the States? It applies to We The People! I am pretty shocked by this, and would love to hear some opinions.....any?
     
  4. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    My opinion is that the home State of John (Heinz) Kerry can slide off the F-ing map and never call again...
     
  5. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I think the people of Massachusetts should start writing letters to the congress men and women, the judges and anyone else that they need to in authority there and tell them what they think about this decision.
     
  6. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Massachusetts, like NY, Conn, NJ, Maryland, DC, Pennsylvania, are greats states to be from. Lots of left wing loons that graduate from colleges and universities with distinguished names--and some of their most competent graduates are psychopaths who achieve positions in government exploiting the masses. Anybody want to guess how many of the Massachusetts SJC members carry concealed or have weapons nearby to their person. The lefties back East, like elsewhere, are very quick to scream like pigs when they have been victimized by not only by their own doing but the doing of criminals and the like. Rather than protecting themselves they employ others to make the decisions to protect others to do what they can not do for themselves--but as you know the cops almost always arrive late to the crimes scene. This is one reason why crime is where it is back east. People in Massachusetts enjoy your own doing. Your people in state government that have the right to firearms or the right to carry concealed don't equalize that right to the citizens of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Do like lots of people do back East, move West!
     
  7. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    That sounds great in theory, but if they won't listen to the people concerning goobermint run health care, tax and cap energy policies, and onerous income tax burdens, what would make one think they would listen to anything pro-gun?
     
  8. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    That's all we can do I guess. And Pray.
     
  9. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    The folks in Massachusetts just voted in Brown; maybe they will change the structure of government in the Commonwealth and get rid of these dummies. Writing letters is a good aversive response to their dumb decisions. But, some one above did indicated that in the Commonwealth's Charter there is no provision for the right to bear arms. Seems very funny since, in part, the American Revolution started there and elsewhere. The Commonwealth is thick with super liberal colleges and universities. That is a lot of voters to change the minds in a more conservative and protective way. tkdguy
     
  10. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    It has allways been the Obama intention to have the states do gun control and leave the feds out of it so they don't get voted out again. Odd how a state can say you have no right when that right is guarenteed by the constitution. What other rights will they say people don't have?

    jj
     
  11. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    They are already trying to curb free speach... if it doesn't agree with those in charge.
     
  12. treemanx

    treemanx Spray, Or. Active Member

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    The scary and sad part about this to me is that this may set a precedent that other States may try and follow. I sure hope that's not the case, I would hate to see something like this growling at Oregon's doorstep.
     
  13. treemanx

    treemanx Spray, Or. Active Member

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    Free Speech = Who has the most money/power.

    I hear ya man.
     
  14. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    I'm not a lawyer (by any means), but I can read (and have great comprehension skills), and my understanding is that Oregon is firmly ensconced in "pro-gun" laws from "the past", and Article-1, Sec.-27 of the Oregon Constituion SPECIFICALLY STATES, "The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence [sic] of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power[.]", that it would take quite a bit of leverage (i.e. outright "illegal" martial law) to get to were "Taxachusetts" is...

    BTW- Don't fall in love with the notion of the newly elected Sen. Brown just yet... IIRC he just recently voted for another massive Federal spending bill for some such "crisis" BS... and that there is the crux of almost ALL of our problems; MASSIVE DEFICIT SPENDING... let's collapse the system with massive debt and spending, then Progressive (i.e. Communists) (R)evolution can commence!

    I fear/suspect there will be blood in the streets...
     
  15. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    STOMPER'S QUOTE: "I FEAR/SUSPECT THERE WILL BE BLOOD IN THE STREETS". Curious why would you think that or what is it that you see or envision?
     
  16. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Note the word "fear" as in dread... Have you seen what's going on in Greece? Riots in the streets... why? The Greek government has spent their country into oblivion, and are beholden to public employee unions (sound familiar on our own turf?), notice Iceland is now sliding into turmoil over "investment money" being lost from the UK and Germany? France has had riots, Germany won't be too far behind... the UK... the USA, then maybe China? The world's nation's economies are all tied together... its being CRASHED on purpose, so another "solution" can be ushered in to a panicked, and "hungry" world... one piece at a time.


    I'm just seeing all the pieces of a big puzzle falling into place... pay no attention, everything is fine.. go drink your Starbuck's, our government is going to take care of us from cradle to grave... But hey... life goes on, huh? :paranoid:
     
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    Mutoman North Bend Active Member

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    "We have seen in Bristol County, and I believe this is true throughout Massachusetts, that 95 percent of the gun violence is committed by those who have no lawful right to possess or carry a firearm," Bristol County District Attorney C. Samuel Sutter said.

    And 95% of the gun violence will continue to be committed by those who have no lawful right to possess or carry a firearm, whether or not you continue to make it difficult for lawful citizens to carry.
     
  18. treemanx

    treemanx Spray, Or. Active Member

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    Awesome Stomper and Mutoman! You guys have hit it right on the head.
     
  19. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    MA (along with CA) needs to slide off into the ocean.
     
  20. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    I'll wait until the SCOTUS rules on this. Until then, the states rulings like Massachusetts don't worry me very much...