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Massachusetts executive order ban on motor vehicle travel

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Father of four, Feb 8, 2013.

  1. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Patrick Declares State Of Emergency, Announces Travel Ban In Mass. « CBS Boston


    "BOSTON (CBS) – Gov. Deval Patrick declared a state of emergency in Massachusetts Friday afternoon for the blizzard that could bring up to 3 feet of snow.

    He also announced he has signed an executive order to ban all travel on all roads in the state starting at 4 p.m. Friday.

    There are some exceptions to the ban, including emergency workers, those who work in hospitals and media, and others required to be at their jobs.

    The governor said rapid snowfall of 2-3 inches per hour will make for, “extremely dangerous conditions,” and will “make safe travel nearly impossible.”

    This is the first time that a Massachusetts governor has issued an executive order like this since the Blizzard of 1978.

    But back then it was put in place after the storm.

    Patrick did not say when this ban would be lifted.

    If you don’t have an exemption and you’re caught on the road, the penalty could be as steep as a $500 fine or, at worst, a year in jail."
     
  2. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Do we as adults have a right to be in extremely dangerous conditions?

    Why do we often let people keep us from doing things that we as adults already do?
     
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  3. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    My gf is in Boston.

    I can think of a few body parts I would give to be there with her right now.
    I still have my fingers crossed for a good local snow storm this year.
     
  4. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    North Carolina last year put out a winter weather ban that pissed off a lot of people. I understand that there are some people who should not be driving around in the snow but banning everyone?

    Very big brotherish to me.
     
  5. notazombie

    notazombie Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Call me juvenile but, when I hear about stupid stuff like this it makes me want to go out of my way to break the rules. Decide you want to run down to 7-11 for a Slurpee -- get a year in jail. Totally worth it.
     
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  6. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    :bluelaugh:
     
  7. Adam12

    Adam12 Oregon Active Member

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    What part of Boston? I lived there for a while- loved it.
     
  8. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    Can't ban travel legally.
    I hope everyone stays safe.
     
  9. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Executive order trumps legality?
     
  10. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    "He also announced he has signed an executive order to ban all travel on all roads in the state starting at 4 p.m. Friday."
     
  11. notazombie

    notazombie Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't it make more sense to ban the storm?
     
  12. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    Brighton

    I love most things about Boston... just not their politics.
     
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  13. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Sure, if banning AR's will stop crime then why won't banning a storm work?
     
  14. slimer13

    slimer13 Deer Park Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a tuesday around here. A couple years ago I drove to work through the city of Spokane with snow coming up over the hood of my blazer in some spots. IIRC there are more sick calls on an average summer day than there were that day.

    Nanny govt at its finest.
     
  15. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Consider those that need rescue and the risk to the responders. I've been in one of those storms and idiots with vehicles stuck in the middle of the road or with a car stuck halfway into the roadway are a hazard to emergency and road clearing crews. In those situations, they are asking people with 4WD vehicles to help transport hospital and other emergency personnel to their places of work.

    The population density in New England is far and above what we have in the snow zones here in the Northwest.
     
  16. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I understand how troublesome it can be for the responders and rescue personal.

    I guess though we should ban some of the following activities also...

    Scuba diving
    Cave diving
    Mountain climbing
    Camping/Backpacking
    Cross country skiing
    Mountain biking
    Hang gliding
    Para sailing
    Deep sea fishing
    Recreational boating
    etc....
     
  17. notazombie

    notazombie Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Piratepast40, while I understand where you're coming from, I still think an executive travel ban is overreaching. Reasonable citizens use reasonable judgement. If there were a strong advisory to stay off the roads, most people won't risk their health or property unnecessarily. No one needs to BAN me from playing golf during a lighting storm. There's always exceptions to the reasonable norm though. Maybe natural selection should handle those cases rather than the threats of fines or jail time.
     
  18. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    I am one of that group of "responders". Do NOT take away my rights or the rights of others for this BS.

    If you truly believe what they are doing is right then it is NO different then believing that all this "gun control" is right since is it EXACTLY the same thing. What is comes down to is restricting the rights of everyone for the POSSIBLE actions of some people. IF those "some people" make poor choices THEY need to be dealt with.
     
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    jgeist Oregon Active Member

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    Obama just signed an executive order so that Biden can use the ladies room, since he squats to pee anyways not a real big deal....
     
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  20. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Oh B.S., the two things have nothing to do with each other. MA, CT, and NY have all declared states of emergency to free up resources for the storm. As a first responder, I find it hard to believe that you don't believe in any laws concerning public safety. I can relate to my brother in law who has repeatedly arrived at car wreck scenes and had to be the one to help extracate bodies because someone thought that they didn't like the oppressive government telling them that that couldn't drive drunk or that they didnt need to wear seat belts. I really find it hard to believe that you actually think it's ok to over and over again pull dead teenagers out of wrecked cars because they thought it was ok to do 90 down some back road.

    If you really think that public safety is a bunch of BS, then you're in the wrong business.