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Marysville girl shot while father cleans guns

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Joe Link, Nov 18, 2008.

  1. Joe Link

    Joe Link Portland, OR Well-Known Member Staff Member Lifetime Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I debated with myself for a bit as to whether or not to post this sad story, taking into consideration our image as gun owners, the golden rule of this site, etc. Ultimately, I decided that this needs to be shared, to remind everyone of the importance of the rules of gun safety. Hopefully none of you need to be reminded about responsible gun ownership and the safety rules, but it never hurts to reinforce them and show you why we stress about them. I hope any and all of you can point out the main rules that, if this guy had followed them, would have saved this young girls life. I know personally, although the rules are habit for me now, I still read and recite them monthly to keep them fresh in my mind. Stay safe guys.

    Original story here

  2. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    What a sad tragedy. But it puts an emphasis on the four rules of handling firearms. And this is why good shooters stress to ALWAYS check the chamber of a firearm that has been out of your hands, no matter if you just pulled it out of your safe, or if someone hands you a gun to look at.
  3. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    Also, not a good idea...
  4. sweetbeard

    sweetbeard Beavertown OreGUN! New Member

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    When writing these stories they always make it seem like it was the guns fault!

    " while cleaning his gun " If you just read the title of the story you would think that guns can just fire for no reason. It should have been titled drunken idiot shoots kid.
  5. caliber bob

    caliber bob Yamhill County, OR. Member

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    Well put Sweetbeard. When I took my NRA class to get my CHL, the three things they said repeatedly was. . "point your firearm in a safe direction, never have the gun loaded until ready to fire, and don't put your finger on the trigger until ready to fire." Very easy rules to follow, and it can save a life. Thanks for posting Joey:thumbup:
  6. wichaka

    wichaka Wa State Well-Known Member

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    Rule i: All guns are always loaded

    rule ii: Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy

    rule iii: Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target

    rule iv: Be sure of your target
  7. Weebs

    Weebs Clackamas County Member

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    sad :(
  8. wavo

    wavo Portland Member

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    Sad, sad. And so unnecessary on so many levels. Cleaning your guns while drunk, having your 6 year old go retrieve your LOADED handgun, pulling the trigger without checking the chamber...sheesh.
  9. snew

    snew Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    Yep, How many times has he ticked those same thoughts off and how many time more will he again. It's makes me kinda ill to think about it.
  10. JumpWing

    JumpWing NK WA Member

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    He chose to drink. He chose to continue drinking until he became drunk. As far as I'm concerned, he should bear the full consequences as if he did it stone cold sober. He's a failure as a father, a husband, and a man. It's unfortunate for his surviving children that they will have to grow up without their father around, but I have no doubt they're better off without him.

    If you can't handle the responsibility of a firearm, then don't have one.
    If you can't handle the responsibility of children, then don't have any.
    If you find yourself in a situation where you've got both, you better MAN UP and put your own selfish indulgences on hold until the situation changes.
  11. Old Dog

    Old Dog Kitsap County, WA Member

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    I was somewhat surprised that this story hadn't been posted on some of the other gun forums ... debated posting it myself, but I think that I, as all of us are, was just rendered thoroughly heartsick by the event and couldn't even begin to articulate our feelings.

    It is truly unfortunate that for many people out there, this man will become the face of a NorthWest gun owner. I'm not sure at this point how any of us can work to overcome the images that those thoughout the country who read/view this story will now have of (what they may believe is) a typical American gun owner.

    Prayers for the family, and wishes that all who become familiar with the story may understand that this man's daughter became the tragic victim of his monumental criminal stupidity ... and is not the victim of the gun itself.
  12. LiveFree7

    LiveFree7 Canby Member

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    Tragic. . . . but +1 to the above quote. . .
  13. m'kay13

    m'kay13 Boardman, OR Member

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    This guy is a creep. By "creep" I mean all of the adjective phrases that we don't say in polite company and are not allowed to post on this forum.

    I hope this man has a long life in prison and a loving cellmate in prison. I am not responding to this story as a just a gun owner, but as a person that works with children and adolescents every day. I am saddened that this person's (not "man's") daughter lost her life at such a young age and had to spend her brief years on this planet in the same house as this drunk, moronic, and thoughtless person (not "father," not "dad", not "guardian").

    I was already having a really chitty day, and then this.
  14. ZeroRing

    ZeroRing 26th District, WA Active Member

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    +1 on that!!

    :drunk: plus :gun10: equals :nuts: