martial law/state of emergency

[Ragingpit]

Well ladies get ready because just as soon as some wacko starts more bull crap they are going to come after the guns. People say, it can't happen here or it won't happen to me but guess what, the rest of the syphalized world has been disarmed, we are next! I wrote that and had some one call me a fearmonger and a paranoid but you know what I'd rather be paranoid and alive then dead or in some f'ed up detainees camp labeled as a domestic terrorist! And if voicing my opinion here makes me a fearmonger than so be it. If their plans are for a one world economy, a one world monetary system and turn this country into a socialist state like france, canada, australia or england than they have to disarm us. Unite or die.

+1, the question is.... what will they do to get the non gun owning citizens to follow with their plan to disarm America. This is what they do, get the backing of the people to justify they're actions....i.e. 9/11, WW2, Vietnam...
people will have to ban together to fight... individuals don't stand a chance. my 2 cents

 

[Partsproduction]

Do any of you guys listen to Savage? He's the only one who has consistanrly kept the same message; Borders, language, culture. Stick with him he's the only media figure I trust.

It's amazing to me that you didn't hear about what he said about "assault weapons" after that Vietnamese guy killed all those people in NY, (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/nyregion/04hostage.html)

Savage came out against private ownership of "assault weapons". (http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=5193)

Savage is not only an egoist of epic proportions, he is also a buffoon. I agree he is sometimes right but it's hard for me to listen to someone who feels the need to constantly tell his audience how brilliant he is, and obviously, in the case of "assault weapons" he is a total idiot. He doesn't understand the intention behind the 2nd amendment. He clearly is not nearly as brilliant as he sees himself.

 

[phathom]

^ Wow, what a moron about that.
"If the police are not allowed to have these types of weapons, then why is the public allowed have them. " (referencing assault rifles)

Um, does he actually know any LEOs? If he did, he would know that they do use assault rifles, most police have some type of guides on what AR-15 you can buy and use on duty, if they don't supply one to you already. What does he think swat teams go in with? Peashooters?

Let's see, there was a controversy in Portland here a couple weeks back about an officer shooting a suspect (with criminal violent history, know to have a gun on him when they got called out, and was acting aggressive towards them) who turned out to be unarmed, with the officer's AR-15.

Hmmm, apparently they are allowed to have them.

 

[Yoda]

Chances are it wouldn't be local law enforcement disarming us. In a marshal law scenario it would most likely be military. And talking with some of those who participated in the Katrina aftermath; they felt completely justified in their actions.

 

[Partsproduction]

And talking with some of those who participated in the Katrina aftermath; they felt completely justified in their actions.

Then they need to be educated so they understand the Constitution. We must not have armed individuals on our soil who do not follow the Constitution. Also, there is always Posse Comitatus that makes US military force usage in domestic situations illegal if unleashed against US citizens on our soil.
This sounds like the opening to civil war that is totally justified, and is in step with the founders ideas behind the second amendment, such troops or police are to be considered domestic enemies, pure and simple. If they fight against legally armed civilians they are domestic enemies and need to be exterminated under a provisional constitutional governments orders.

 

[SnackCracker]

Then they need to be educated so they understand the Constitution. We must not have armed individuals on our soil who do not follow the Constitution. Also, there is always Posse Comitatus that makes US military force usage in domestic situations illegal if unleashed against US citizens on our soil.
This sounds like the opening to civil war that is totally justified, and is in step with the founders ideas behind the second amendment, such troops or police are to be considered domestic enemies, pure and simple. If they fight against legally armed civilians they are domestic enemies and need to be exterminated under a provisional constitutional governments orders.

Unfortunately if it it ever comes to that, the armed citizens will be portrayed as the domestic enemies in order to justify the use of the military. It all depends on what "side" you're on. The "government" will be the one giving the "provisional constitutional orders"... only the orders won't be constitutional but rather construed.

The sad thing is how many people don't think the 2nd amendment is really that important in the first place.

 

[Sasquatchvnv]

I try to steer as many military/leo as I can to www.oathkeepers.org - best constitutional education available for those who might not have really thought about it before.

 

[ZachS]

+1 for the savage show
Michael Savage is true to borders (close em now), Language (speak english or die) and Culture (were a western culture) this isnt mexico

It really ticks me off when people make statements like this riddled with grammatical, stylistic, and/or spelling errors. If the English language is so important to you, please use it correctly.

 

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[zeezee]

+1, the question is.... what will they do to get the non gun owning citizens to follow with their plan to disarm America. This is what they do, get the backing of the people to justify they're actions....i.e. 9/11, WW2, Vietnam...
people will have to ban together to fight... individuals don't stand a chance. my 2 cents

They know who has firearms!

If you bought anything new in the past 15 to 20 years you had to fill out the paperwork.

If you applied for a hunting license.

If you applied for a concealed carry permit.

If you belong to the NRA or other such organizations.

If you belong to a gun club.

Will they come for them? You tell me. LOL!

 

[PMKN_PI]

They know who has firearms!

If you bought anything new in the past 15 to 20 years you had to fill out the paperwork.

If you applied for a hunting license.

If you applied for a concealed carry permit.

If you belong to the NRA or other such organizations.

If you belong to a gun club.

Will they come for them? You tell me. LOL!

Let them come. Id rather go down shooting every one of the little Constitution shredders in the face. Anybody who follows illegal orders like that deserves it. How many 9mm holowpoints does it take to make a face unrecognizable? Anyone who wants to take my guns care to find out? THey'd eventually kill me, but who wants to live in tyranny? Id rather take a few of them out first.

 

[Bark]

Let them come. Id rather go down shooting every one of the little Constitution shredders in the face. Anybody who follows illegal orders like that deserves it. How many 9mm holowpoints does it take to make a face unrecognizable? Anyone who wants to take my guns care to find out? THey'd eventually kill me, but who wants to live in tyranny? Id rather take a few of them out first.

Your house will be first on the list after that statementand you won't get a shot off because you will be completely out gunned.:gun21:

 

[PMKN_PI]

Your house will be first on the list after that statementand you won't get a shot off because you will be completely out gunned.:gun21:

I dont care

 

[Ragingpit]

I vote for the check points.... they'll get you going to the store to buy a gallon of milk or something.... they'll check your ID and if you're on the list..... "please step out of the vehicle"....

 

[matt_w]

papers please

 

[Partsproduction]

Let them come. Id rather go down shooting every one of the little Constitution shredders in the face.

In my post I mentioned 'Constitutional provisional government', and if you read the founding writings (Madison) you will come to agree with me that individual retaliation is not the intent. When the outrages become too grievous a government that mirrors the original Constitutional government will arise, it must!
To fire upon anyone over a piece of paper, or even an idea, is murder unless a governing body decrees its defense. Read Madison and Jefferson on this aspect, and on the nature of rebellion under the Constitution and you will be forced to agree.

 

[zeezee]

If I was a power hungry evil government stooge, here is what I would do.

1. Ban all fire arms and require that all firearms be turned in at your local police station within 30 days.
2. Anyone caught with a firearm after 30 days gets 10 years hard labor.
3. Anyone who has a registered firearm that doesn't turn it in within 30 days cannot receive any government benefit, be it a drivers liscense, welfare, unemployment, medicare, etc. Also, they will be fined $1000 a day for every day after 30 that they haven't turned in the weapon. The money will be automatically deducted from your paycheck. Any fines that you don't pay will result in siezure of your assets. Bank accounts, house, car, etc. Your children will have to be taken from you as well because you can't care for them.
4. Anyone who provides information to law enforcement that results in the confiscation of a firearm will receive a bounty of $10,000.
5. If someone tells a law enforcement official that you have a firearm, you will be required to turn it in to the police within 30 days or you will be treated as in item #3. It will be assumed that you have a firearm whether you do or not.

I wouldn't even bother with house to house searches.

 

[shibbershabber]

yeah, the Katrina confiscations went down under the sleepy watch of the Pro2A crowd that was lulled to sleep by a Republican administration.


Cops and soldiers follow orders, period. You will be just another enemy combatant.

 

[Father of four]

SSSSSHHHHH!!!!! You are giving the bad guys ideas!

 

[phathom]

Everyone remember, if Zeezee ever runs for office, don't put him there. He'll just put bad ideas in their head.