Marlin Info Please

[mm93]

No sir, no luck. Perhaps one of the Marlin collectors could contact me for specific info on it?
thanks,
John

I've collected Marlin rifles for decades, and your number and the fact it's a .30-30 makes yours a pre WWI era Model 1893. Since you didn't mention the model I'm guessing yours has a tang sight on it, which covers up the Model 1893 rollstamp on the top tang?
A picture would help me to help you as to whether it's a standard 1893 with 26" octagon barrel, or some other configuration that might make it a "special order" variation.

 

[Mikej]

No sir, no luck. Perhaps one of the Marlin collectors could contact me for specific info on it?
thanks,
John

Give them some time. So many members from so many places with other things to do besides stare at damned discussion forums every day! (I resemble that remark BTW)

 

[Mikej]

No sir, no luck. Perhaps one of the Marlin collectors could contact me for specific info on it?
thanks,
John

I don't see where you posted? Should have been "Winchester And Lever Action Forum".

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For Those That Collect Lever Actions Of All Eras. Love those old lever actions? Then this the place to learn and share your knowledge- join in the fun.

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[mm93]

Would you have any idea of its value?

I could give a reasonable idea of value if I saw pictures that were good. You mentioned inlays in the stock, but that would not have been factory. Marlins never had inlays on anything I've ever seen or owned. I've owned over 200 pre WWI era Marlins, and never seen that.

 

[gmerkt]

Since you didn't mention the model

See post #26:

It’s a Marlin 1893,

 

[mm93]

See post #26:

Yes, I saw that after I replied.

 

[former173rd]

It does have the tang sight (un marked) and it appears the original barrel mounted sight was removed and the dovetail filled, and not a factory job. Short (very) barrel, round. The stock has inlays of a lighter contrasting wood. No saddle ring or provision for one. Steel butt plate (curved). The fore end is somewhat fatter than usual with the inlays on each side.

 

[mm93]

Appears to be fairly original beyond the stock mods, and the rear sight dovetail filler. It's a carbine, so it should have had a typical carbine ladder style rear sight. Not a saddlering carbine, but a carbine nonetheless. These versions without saddlerings were often called "Eastern Carbines, because back East guys carried them instead of riding a horse and needing a saddlering.
Have you put a wiping rod down the barrel yet to determine the barrel length? I'd bet it's a 20" the most common length for a carbine.

 

[former173rd]

Appears to be fairly original beyond the stock mods, and the rear sight dovetail filler. It's a carbine, so it should have had a typical carbine ladder style rear sight. Not a saddlering carbine, but a carbine nonetheless. These versions without saddlerings were often called "Eastern Carbines, because back East guys carried them instead of riding a horse and needing a saddlering.
Have you put a wiping rod down the barrel yet to determine the barrel length? I'd bet it's a 20" the most common length for a carbine.

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[Knobgoblin]

Sent you a pm

 

[former173rd]

How to get to PM?

 

[Mikej]

How to get to PM?

Look up on the top right and you'll see "Inbox", there should be a red"1" next to it. That's your message from Gobnoblin. Click on that or hover the curser if your on a PC.

 

[former173rd]

Look up on the top right and you'll see "Inbox", there should be a red"1" next to it. That's your message from Gobnoblin. Click on that or hover the curser if your on a PC.

Got it .......thank youl

 

[coreymet]

Try this website:

How-To Determine Year of Manufacture- Marlin - Marlin Firearms Collectors Association

 

[Mikej]

Got it .......thank youl

That rifle is pretty boogered up. That filled in dove tail is pretty ugly. And it looks like they beat it up and took a file to it. But I don't know nuthin', to me, I wouldn't pay $500.00 for it. I may be full of do-do too. Let the Marlin lever guys chip in. I'm more of a Winchester guy anyway.

 

[former173rd]

That rifle is pretty boogered up. I don't know nuthin', but to me, I wouldn't pay $500.00 for it. I may be full of do-do too. Lat the marling lever guys chip in. I'm more of a Winchester guy anyway.

Well sir, your input is most welcomed.
"is bad knowledged worse than no knowledge?"

really,, thanks!

BTW.....is that your daughter beside you in the avatar?

 

[Mikej]

Well sir, your input is most welcomed.
"is bad knowledged worse than no knowledge?"

really,, thanks!

We'll see. I'm really green. Maybe the gun is some super special gun? I look forward to learning with you.

 

[former173rd]

Well sir, the only thing "special" I've got in my entire life is my bride of 36 years. I should be so lucky with a flippin gun!

 

[RVTECH]

That rifle is pretty boogered up. That filled in dove tail is pretty ugly. And it looks like they beat it up and took a file to it.

Yes it is - and I suspect either someone 'broke' a dovetail off of a sight and attempted to shape it to fit the barrel or made one and tried to do the same.

If you are at all interested in it I would suggest you run a brush and patch down the barrel to see how bad the pitting (and possible rust) is.

Like MikeJ I am a Winchester guy myself - but I own one Marlin -however old guns are old guns and this one needs a 'fine tooth comb' before making a decision.

 

[mm93]

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If this is a 15" barrel, you may have a problem. When Bill Brophy was alive he worked with BATF to get all the under 16" barreled Marlin rifles added to the ATF's curio and relic list, so they would be grandfathered in as legal under 16" guns. If this gun didn't come with a letter stating it is on the ATF's list already, it would have to be added to become legal.
Now here's the rub. If ATF looks at your gun and determines it may have been shortened, and was not originally a 15" barrel from the factory, they're going to remove that barrel and hand you back the leftover parts. Or maybe just destroy the whole gun, and you're out completely.
Bill's request for exemption was based on 1,416 rifles under 16" in the factory records. But they made more than this as like yours, many were made after records ceased in 1906. So you would have to contact ATF and ask for an exemption also, and they will decide after examination if yours appears unaltered. In my opinion your muzzle, and front sight location look original, and I'd not hesitate to apply for the exemption. But if you don't own this gun yet, it may be better to have the seller apply. If it passes examination the value will increase greatly over any other longer barreled Marlin 1893 carbines, as the letter from ATF will make it highly desirable.