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Marksmanship @ 100 meters

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by smurf hunter, Jan 20, 2010.

  1. smurf hunter

    smurf hunter Auburn, WA Active Member

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    This headline caught my eye so I read it:

    "Prince William: shooting skills shown off in Sydney"

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...liam-shooting-skills-shown-off-in-Sydney.html

    So from 100 meters, he did 4 groups of 5. Averaging a 104mm spread. (works out to a tick more than 4 inch grouping @ 109 yards).

    "...a rating described as “excellent” by one senior officer..."

    Now, I'm a newbie shooter, but know a few folks that can do as well and better.

    From a military perspective, would you describe that work as "excellent"?
     
  2. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    4" @109 yards SUCKS. I would be ashamed of myself for a group like that.
     
  3. jack1122

    jack1122 Tillamook County Member

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    I would shoot the man that printed that, if it was me. That's pitiful.


    With a full auto that aint too bad.
     
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  4. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Aw, give em a break, he is firing a short barreled, belt fed, light machine gun..:gun06:
     
  5. redclk430

    redclk430 Portland, OR New Member

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    To qualify in the US military all you have to do is hit the target, I think you guys are being a bit rough on the guy. I don't think the goal was to pull out a rifle and be 100% accurate. He was using a belt fed machine gun that's anything but accurate and it was his first day with the weapon.

    The grouping isn't anything to write home about but I'm willing to bet he could do better with some more training and time with that weapon.

    "Just over an hour earlier, Prince William had been able to exchange experiences of sleeping on the streets when he visited a hostel for the homeless in Sydney."

    Based on that statement I'm thinking he was only at the range for 1 hr? I don't know, hard to tell based on the column.
     
  6. smurf hunter

    smurf hunter Auburn, WA Active Member

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  7. ORBrit

    ORBrit Eugene Member

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    You can see from the pic he was firing on full auto - probably trying to get 3-5 round bursts.
    I don't think his grouping was too bad considering!

    You may think he's just an entitled prince, but he has been through the full 1 year commissioning course at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, in addition to whatever further military training he may have received prior (UOTC) and since his CC.
     
  8. crosse

    crosse Bellevue Active Member

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    4moa with a minimi? i think that's probably pretty good. its not a rifle so much as a SAW.
     
  9. ogre

    ogre Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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  10. ORBrit

    ORBrit Eugene Member

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    I just re-read it and it appears he was shooting the AUG. Not very impressive at all.

    The article makes him sound like a complete novice, whereas he would already have had to qualify with the L85 rifle and L86 LSW at 400 and 600 yards respectively whilst at RMAS.
     
  11. wayoutwest

    wayoutwest Polk County, Oregon Active Member

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    I read it as he was scored using the AUG...also fired the Minimi
     
  12. ORBrit

    ORBrit Eugene Member

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    The part that makes me chuckle is that they say "to fire real bullets at a target 100 metres away".

    What else is he going to fire at a target 100 m away? Nerd darts?
    The English public is so far detached from guns that they don't realize their beloved prince has done live firing exercises at night, with live grenades, stabbing dummy targets with his bayonet while mortar bombs and artillery shells whistle overhead. Probably several times over during his time at Sandhurst.