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Man shot in face after confronting "road rage" driver

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by boarder4life81, Jul 17, 2012.

  1. boarder4life81

    boarder4life81 Eugene, Oregon Active Member

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    So all the details about this incident (Sheriff: Man shot in face during confrontation over 'road rage' | Local & Regional News for Eugene, Springfield Oregon | Eugene News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KVAL CBS 13) haven't been released yet, but so far here is what I have surmised happened. Old man made a bad driving call (they say "road rage" but fail to go into any detail on what that might have been). 24 year old tracks down man to his home, confronts man with 3 other friends. Old man, being outnumbered and muscled, feels threatened and defends himself in front of his home. I'm actually find it difficult to put into words the strangeness and stupidity of this whole incident as it's reported. If this plays out simply as described above the old man might have a legitimate self defense case despite the fact his driving was the initial motive for the situation. Every time I read the article I keep getting the impression they want you to feel like the 24 year old is the victim. But when you look past the driving there is the case of 4 people confronting a stranger in front of his home, isn't that the kind of situation that could warrant the use of force to defend yourself? If he (the 24 year old) had simply took a deep breathe and moved on instead of confronting the guy with a group of people he wouldn't have been shot. Anyone have thoughts on this incident?
     
  2. codezilla

    codezilla United States Member

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    Should count his blessings since he was shot in the face with a .44 and amazingly did not die.
     
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  3. lv1986

    lv1986 SW WA New Member

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    got what he deserved he wont mess with grandpa anymore, stupid you had to get shot over driving. but over zealous kid out to show his friends how TOUGH he is, he learned real quick hes not as tough as a .44 im suprised he still has a face and is alive. Granted none of this should have happened period...i dont condone the older guy whatsoever, but would tend to lean to his side, like to see more details emerge.
     
  4. biker bo

    biker bo Myrtle Creek Active Member

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    Hopefully the thug want-a-be learned a lesson. If not I hope the next guy is a better shot.
     
  5. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    It also looks like alcohol was a factor. Sounds like the group went out drinking after the alleged road rage incident and came back to confront the man at 1:30am.

    Not real bright.
     
  6. Hardwood floor guy

    Hardwood floor guy Beaverton Active Member

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    when you pay too much for cable you get bored.
    when you get bored you go driving
    when you go driving you get angry at old men
    when you get angry at old men you get 3 buddies to confornt the old man
    when you and your 3 buddies confront old men you get shot in the face with a 44mag
    dont get shot in the face with a 44mag....switch to direct tv.
     
  7. Mason3379

    Mason3379 Oregon City Active Member

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    As the old adage goes "don't mess with old people they are to old to fight, they will just kill you"!
     
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  8. t.huynh

    t.huynh vancouver, wa Active Member

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    Had some bubblegum following me around high beaming me the other night. Followed me about 5 miles back to my neighborhood.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  9. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

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    Yep.

    You got to be kidding me. 4 young guys against one old man...after having some liquid courage to salve the bruised ego, this kid has to take "backup" before he goes and confronts the old man? What did he want, witnesses of his demise?
     
  10. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    Two lessons to learn from this

    1) Dont go back to your neighborhood when you have someone blatantly following you.

    2) tapatalk is just horrible... it neuters forums and makes it harder to read and post. Then it spews advertisements onto the forum every time you use it.
    Come to the dark side, get a real phone, and dont install that crap on it. Get a full forum browsing experience without the spam!
     
  11. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Sometimes the process of natural selection moves too slowly. Sometimes it has a near miss, but when it does it tends to leave a mark... That had to hurt, if not rupture some eardrums.

    What's the deal with Springfield (and adjacent area) youths picking fights with old folks these days? You'd think the word would get out that old folks are the true "O.G.'s" that'll busta' cap in their a$$e$.... LMAO!!


    An armed society is a polite society. :thumbup:
     
  12. mrblond

    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    must be something in springfields water or something wrong with the young people there.
     
  13. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    You mean a Junction City youths picking fights with old folks in Harrisburg?
     
  14. swoop

    swoop Milwaukie, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Five on one on the older guys property...Sounds like a good shoot to me.
     
  15. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Although its all within geographical spitting distance from each other, you're correct... I stand erected. (and qualified my prior post a bit). ;)
     
  16. Both Eyes Open

    Both Eyes Open Hood Canal Active Member

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    Who knows who the original "road rager" was but as soon as you follow someone to their home it becomes you. Sounds like the 60 yr old was just defending his home to me...


    This sent from my brain via my keyboard
     
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  17. FarmerTed1971

    FarmerTed1971 Portland, Oregon, United States Well-Known Member

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    He probably will be wishing he was dead after the damage to his face that a .44 will do. Ouch.
     
  18. swoop

    swoop Milwaukie, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, he might have gotten off with only a broken nose if he had left his buddies at home.:D
     
  19. Kevatc

    Kevatc Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Article said the guy was treated and released. Bet he had to shovel out his Fruit of the Looms though.
     
  20. pdx210

    pdx210 Clackamas Active Member

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    Bet he will think long and hard about following some old guy at his house again!