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The cop was in uniform, including a body cam. How would anyone know whether he was on-duty or off-duty?Off duty cop should be treated like any private citizen. They aren't exempt
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The cop was in uniform, including a body cam. How would anyone know whether he was on-duty or off-duty?Off duty cop should be treated like any private citizen. They aren't exempt
But is ok for them to assume the white car-jacker the cops blew away was black.This is gonna stir up Antifa, I'm sure. Especially because he assumed he was a robbery suspect...
Only one group of people riot over criminals being shot by police and only when the skin tones are very specific, and the reverse is not reciprocated. Water is also wet.What if the races were reversed?
Whoever that commentator was, he's an idiot. Didn't watch past his 4th irrational spew of hate for all things LE.What if the races were reversed?
The entire narration by the guy in the video just shows me why we have Cops getting shot. The narrator says multiple times that the guy who was shot was NOT a threat. As he is standing there with a gun in his hand. Narrator says the Cop "murdered him" because he shot the moron who was holding a gun in his hand and had refused to put it down. WTF are the Cops supposed to do? There was a good video here just a few days ago from Chi Town that shows exactly why you should NOT assume the clown holding the gun is harmless. 4 Chi Town Cops go after that guy who they can not see the gun. He manages to shoot 2 or the 4 Cops before they can drop him. Yet this MORON on screw tube thinks the guy holding a gun and drinking something is harmless and Cop murdered him?What if the races were reversed?
For some reason the vid kept crashing on me. Not watchable.The entire narration by the guy in the video just shows me why we have Cops getting shot. The narrator says multiple times that the guy who was shot was NOT a threat. As he is standing there with a gun in his hand. Narrator says the Cop "murdered him" because he shot the moron who was holding a gun in his hand and had refused to put it down. WTF are the Cops supposed to do? There was a good video here just a few days ago from Chi Town that shows exactly why you should NOT assume the clown holding the gun is harmless. 4 Chi Town Cops go after that guy who they can not see the gun. He manages to shoot 2 or the 4 Cops before they can drop him. Yet this MORON on screw tube thinks the guy holding a gun and drinking something is harmless and Cop murdered him?
You didn't miss much. Moron keeps stopping the video to say the kook with gun in hand was not a threat as he was refusing to put the gun down.For some reason the vid kept crashing on me. Not watchable.
However, I knew it was going to be bad after the cartoon intro!!
Ah........ maybe that's why I thought the vid was crashing, I didn't have the sound on so I don't bother they wifey. Glad I didn't watch it.You didn't miss much. Moron keeps stopping the video to say the kook with gun in hand was not a threat as he was refusing to put the gun down.
Rick, retired cop. He also points out good tactics when he sees itWhoever that commentator was, he's an idiot. Didn't watch past his 4th irrational spew of hate for all things LE.
Good night.
There are some who do it because the can, not because it's needed.Too many people nowadays are ready to show or point a gun when it's not needed.
Completely agree. With even minimal foreknowledge of the situation, engagement is the last option for me.I attempted to explain if one is present during an active shooting situation he/she should try to secure themselves and family and find a clear route of escape, and not even CONSIDER any bravado such as engaging the shooter - UNLESS YOU ARE CORNERED and have no other choice.
The stores don't loose.... they pass the costs on. The cops won't even respond unless the call has the magic word (assault) inserted. No point to respond.... liberal judges, DA's, city officials....you know those people that are voted into office to make things better, no they don't pay, they just get re-elected... It's a continual cycle.Point: In Seattle are shoplifters even harrassed by cops? In SF they just passed and ordnance that any shoplifting up to $925 is legal, ie a "civil matter" rather than a criminal infraction. At the same time, Walmart managers and employees are told not to approach shoplifters... just let em go... the store absorbs the cost.... uh, no the paying customers do in higher prices.
In Arizona -- where this occurred, he is guilty of 'using a weapon in a threatening manner.' You may not brandish a firearm unless out of clearly articulable self defense.Very sad indeed but, maybe some others who carry will see this and THINK, when they are out. Guy chased the shoplifters to another area and then jumped out to hold them at gun point. Over shoplifting. Having the ability to carry does NOT turn people into a Cop. If the Police had arrested the theft people they would have been promptly turned loose. So what the hell is the point of trying to take them down at gun point?
Not to mention a LOT of the scum who steal are armed. If they had pulled a gun to fire at the "good guy" what happens when some person walking by gets hit by either the "good guy" or the scum? Again over a shoplift. People who chose to carry need to use their damn brain.
Don't even need a permit in AZ, FWIW. But yeah, this guy bubblegummed up and he paid with his life.Your toter's permit is not a Batman badge.
Man holding suspected shoplifters at gunpoint is fatally shot by off-duty cop; investigation underway - Breaking911
WARNING: The attached video may contain strong language as well as graphic images which may be disturbing to some people. Viewer discretion is advised. ARIZONA – (PPD) – The Phoenix Police Department released a Critical Incident Briefing (CIB) video that includes audio, visuals and information...breaking911.com
ARIZONA – (PPD) – The Phoenix Police Department released a Critical Incident Briefing (CIB) video that includes audio, visuals and information related to an officer-involved shooting (OIS) which occurred on June 3rd, 2021, in the area of 15th Avenue and Camelback Road.
There are a lot of details missing in the video, but no state that I'm aware of allows you to hold shoplifters at gunpoint. I suspect there's more to this story and the cops are only releasing the bare minimum as there's an ongoing investigation.Very sad indeed but, maybe some others who carry will see this and THINK, when they are out. Guy chased the shoplifters to another area and then jumped out to hold them at gun point. Over shoplifting. Having the ability to carry does NOT turn people into a Cop. If the Police had arrested the theft people they would have been promptly turned loose. So what the hell is the point of trying to take them down at gun point?
Not to mention a LOT of the scum who steal are armed. If they had pulled a gun to fire at the "good guy" what happens when some person walking by gets hit by either the "good guy" or the scum? Again over a shoplift. People who chose to carry need to use their damn brain.