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Man arrested for concealing nonNFA compliant UZI SBR under coat

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by civilian75, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    Oh, man, we don't need this kind of crap!

     
  2. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    This will have no affect on the legal gun owner. Some dirt bag with a piece of crap firearm like that gets himself popped for carrying concealed with out a license. Good riddance to him.

    Idiots like that need to be drummed out of the legal gun owning pool anyway.
     
  3. aslinged

    aslinged Southern Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I thought you could not own the means to a short barreled rifle without the tax stamp.

    For instance if you own an AR lower I thought you could not be in possession of a short barreled upper because it was 'intent to construct' or something like that.

    Am I wrong?
     
  4. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Criminals don't care. This guy is the poster child for stupid.

    If this was a registered NFA item and this guy was the owner, than it would be a problem for legal gun owners (concealing a loaded rifle).

    All the tens of thousands of NFA items out there and -0- crimes with them (well, maybe one, a cop no less). But the thugs will be coming after them also eventually.
     
  5. chariot13

    chariot13 Near Eugene/Springfield Well-Known Member

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    Its been posted before and you can find the ATF letters in a google search that you can own a ar-15 rifle and pistol and any variation but you're not supposed to mate the upper pistol to a rifle lower.
     
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  6. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    Idiots are as idiots do....or something like that.

    If you break the law, don't get upset when they catch you.
     
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  7. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    This guy is an idiot. No doubt about it. I hope it turns out he is a gang member or someone with a long rap sheet. 'cause if not, gun grabbers could use this guy's stupidity to fuel their agenda engine.
     
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  8. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The herd will get 3 perhaps 4 words or phrases.
    1. UZI
    2. Concealed
    3. Arrested
    4. The photo shows a slightly mean looking, large, gentleman!

    Oh! What to do, What to do? Call the Shepards, Call the Shepards! They'll save us! Er.... I've heard that the Shepards will fleece us and kill us for meat! Ooooooh! How dare you tell us that, we don't want to hear your lies! Besides Obaaaaaaama will protect us!

    PS: I said slightly mean looking. If I was being booked I would look a lot meaner than that!
     
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  9. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
     
  10. DeanfromOregon

    DeanfromOregon Wilsonville Amateur Ascended Master Platinum Supporter

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    If I had a son, he would look just like Ryan Presley!
     
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  11. locobob

    locobob Beaverton, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I think some of you guys are jumping the gun. The article states that he legally purchased the gun so it's quite possible he's not a dirt bag felon. I'm sure a few of you have made use of improvised/hasty concealment in order to show a friend your latest firearms acquisition without ending up surround by a SWAT team. In this case his concealment effort failed, okay, he made a bad decision there and ended up accomplishing the opposite. I also wouldn't be too surprised if we find out later that the short barrel is a dummy i.e. display barrel - they were common accessories with UZI's. If it is a real short barrel then he made a bad decision regarding kind of a stupid law... yeah I think a lot of the NFA stuff is kinda silly. Bad press we don't need right now? Yes for sure.
     
  12. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Not a felon,(yet) but a dirt bag. That piece of sh*t Uzi is one of the last guns I would ever own. More of a bragging thing to show his homeboys in the barber shop what he had. He cold not hit the broad side of a barn with that thing. For a self defense concealed carry, not even close.

    As for hasty concealment to show a friend my latest, not really. Proper concealed carry is just that. Properly concealed and only displayed when appropriate and in the right company. A lot of people I know have no idea I carry every day. A lot do. Showing each other our steel is something reserved for a closed door room or a gun range. Parking lots of barber shops or other public place, bad idea and it you get caught it is one less responsible concealed carry around.
     
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  13. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    Does no one else find the entire incident awkward? I'm not usually one to believe all the weird conspiracies but, his sure seems odd and convenient on the day people are testifying about how easy it is to convert legal firearms in to illegal versions.
     
  14. slingshot1943

    slingshot1943 salem or Well-Known Member

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    No ammo, no ill intent. Seems like making a big deal out of a harmless, dumb act.
     
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  15. davef

    davef S.E. pdx Active Member

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    That takes barber shop gossip to a whole new level.
     
  16. greedy bastards

    greedy bastards Multnomah Village New Member

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    Please use spell check.
    Don't Hate
    And tell me you haven't shot out of the window of your truck!
     
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  17. rayd8

    rayd8 Formerly Portland, now Alabama! Member

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    A little off the top is not the same as a little off the barrel....
     
  18. locobob

    locobob Beaverton, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I think I'm detecting some racial bias here... "homeboys"? Do you have some inside info that this guy is a thug? I'm just assuming the best here and you seem to be assuming the worst. From the article we really don't know anything about this guy. Maybe he's a no good gang banger thug without a record... or maybe he's a doctor or a veteran just back from the sand box... we don't know, lets not jump to conclusions.

    I had an UZI model B some years ago. It was a heavy 9mm carbine with a long, creepy trigger. It was reasonably accurate for what it was. I sold it because it wasn't much shorter than a M4 style AR and offered a good deal less firepower. Yeah it was kind of a fun conversation piece to show off to my gun nut buddies... oh well, I don't see where the gun itself is an issue (except for the barrel length question)... if you don't like UZI's or black guns in general then don't buy one.

    I'm glad that you are discreet with your carry and show and tell, that is great. I usually think things through as well and keep gun transport or carry low profile and legal in public. It's good common sense because we all know that the general public is full of gun-fearers who will call the cops if they even catch a glimpse of such an evil contraption. Now strolling across a public street with an exposed, unloaded rifle is quite legal in most cases but we all know the attention that will likely bring. Anyhow it appears that this guy made a bad call regarding when, where and how in showing off his gun. I don't think that should be a life sentence if his intentions weren't criminal. I've done a dumb thing or two in my life and I'm sure you have too.

    I'm not trying to be a jerk here, I'm just saying lets not jump to worst case conclusions when we don't have all the facts.
     
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  19. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    ...and illegally converting it in to a short barreled rifle.
     
  20. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    ... and conceal carrying a rifle? You can't even legally conceal a rifle with a CHL!

    I am not going to jump into any conclusions about this feller's character. Like slingshot said, no ammo, no ill intent. Just a dumb act.

    I simply do not like the timing (our bad luck) and the yellow press coverage of the incident. Uzis are in madame F's ban list. Probably because it is allegedly "sooooo" easy to convert them into full auto, any idiot can do it.